Comments Thread For: Pacquiao, Arum To Discuss Marquez November Trilogy

[jrosales13]

Then speak for yourself and don't watch it. No one forces you to. What are phuking crazy? Would you come down to that weight if you're Pac? You must be ******. He's the champ. **** on Marquez for wanting this fight. Pac don't have to.

If I was Pac? And, for legacy I would go down. Because, it would be more meaningful for him legacy wise.

And, I will not buy this fight. Of course I will watch it. I'm going to stream on my computer just like I'm going to do with the garbage ass Mosley fight.

I already supported Pac blah type of year last year by going to both of his fights in Dallas. But, I'm not going to support every garbage ass fight he has.

[LeadUppercut]

No it's a garbage ass fight.

The fight only means something if it's at 135. Anything higher is garbage.

I could stomach a money fight at 140, JMM deserves the payday.

He is most likely still out-of his depth at 140, but 135 is out of the question.

[tesla_power]

Damn. Kind of hoping something better but $$$ speaks I guess. They could market it as the fighter that gave Pac fits... at 130. Lolz.

Anyhow, I just hope for a Mayweather or a Sergio fight before Pac retires. What he does now is strictly pure business.

[BABYBOXER]

floyd already exposed how to beat jmm...catchweight at 144, just weight 2 lbs over during the weight-in

anyways, jmm will just be after the payday...

seriously, jmm is a great fighter but i think manny is already at different level... i don't think manny will move back to jmm's level for possible trilogy...

[megas30]

Arum will bring up some lies concerning Mayweather to justify this fight then the Manny fans will eat it up and say Floyd is a coward. This has been top rank strategy all along--To use PR to beat Floyd.

[JTakaYoungBos$$]

I hope this fight happens, should have made this fight before mosley anyway.

[iloveboxing2]

jmm sucks and so are you "leadupper****"..

...do you want to test my chin for 3/12? after you are done with your idiot comments, let me know..

I could stomach a money fight at 140, JMM deserves the payday.

He is most likely still out-of his depth at 140, but 135 is out of the question.

[ADP02]

1) YOU SAID: You shouldn't start, here is why....."It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".....

So why did you talk? I guess you wanted to show me how YOU can be a fool? Just asking ...



2)
ADP02: Just a few months ago you said that Manny is a coward for not wanting to fight Marquez.....


LEADUPPERCUT: No, I did not kid, I stated that Pacroid was a coward for demanding 147 - higher than when he fought for his ww title - and yet refusing to defend his title against a genuine JMW, any JMW.


ADP02 RESPONSE: So I was right, AGAIN that you called him a coward. Thanks for admitting it. Furthermore, you have also said on occasion that Manny would be a coward and not fight Marquez if Marquez accepts 147.

So you should have stayed silent, as you said above, right?




3)
ADP02: but now you are making excuses that Marquez is turning 38 and that this will not determine who is the best?

LEADUPPERCUT: Don't be so ******, even if the fight was held at 140, it would not determine "once-and-for-all" who was the best..... Marquez is a career-featherweight and will be 38yo.

ADP02 RESPONSE: Isn't it you who has been all over these boards wanting this fight? I told you that Marquez would get smoked if they fought but you countered that Manny is a coward. Now you are swaying more and more to Manny winning. First, you gave the advantage to Manny, due to the weight BUT now you are adding what I told you way back. That this is an old Marquez at 140+ has little chance .... SO STOP WITH THESE COWARD POSTS OF YOURS IF YOU SAY THAT MARQUEZ HAS A VERY SLIM TO NONE CHANCE!!!!

Oh, why you bringing up that Marquez is a career featherweight when he hasn't fought there in (4-5) years? Its not fair of Manny picking on Marquez? ....... Remember to point out next time that Marquez has been at 135+ since 2008

So you should have stayed silent, as you said above, right?




4)
LEADUPPERCUT: OK, firstly..... the b1tch-move catchweight demand was 2lbs under the divisional limit. You are referring to what Cotto weighed for Clottey, which is simply..... unintelligent. The weight restriction imposed upon Cotto was two pounds under the divisional limit.

ADP02 RESPONSE: AGAIN, Manny is now the WW Champ but you want him to come down 7lbs, because as you said, the limit for a WW champ is 147 NOT 146, NOT 145 and certainly NOT 140. If you can't accept Cotto coming down 2 lbs from the limit and post those points OVER AND OVER AGAIN, then are you not being hypocritical by asking a WW champ to come down 7lbs? "Manny may be able to make the weight BUT so was Cotto able to.
HYPOCRITE, that's all it is, man!!!

So you should have stayed silent, as you said above, right?




5)
LEADUPPERCUT: 1.) claiming to be a genuine JMW champion, and therefore a genuine 8-division titlist, but never actually fighting a genuine JMW opponent

ADP02 RESPONSE: I already told you what I think about this BUT Manny doesn't need to claim anything. Its in the books buddy ... BUT Manny tried and didn't think he can stay at 154 because 150 was already too much. What's your problem? You can see this with Marquez (not coming up to 147) but not with Manny?
You must be a hater!!! Manny can try again (154) but to call him a coward as you do, is nonsense.





6)
LEADUPPERCUT: 2) killing a fight by refusing to submit to random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff, then "apparently" agreeing to the tests via the media - after the fact - and then blaming the other guy

ADP02 RESPONSE: The other guy accused Manny of being a cheat then saying, "you still want to fight me under Floyd's new rules?" What did you expect? How is this being a hypocrite when its called negotiating? lol!





7)
LEADUPPERCUT: 3.) Calling yourself a P4P champion, then demanding a catchweight when you had already fought within that divisional limit

ADP02 RESPONSE: You forgot your response the other day that even Marquez would have beat that Oscar? You didn't even count it (legit) because of your twisted reasoning. Remember? lol ... That is what you call being hypocrite.

PLUS Manny ONLY WEIGHED 142 against Oscar and in his fight prior to Cotto, Manny weighed in at 138 ONLY (FIRST TIME AT THAT WEIGHT WHILE MARQUEZ HAS FOUGHT AT 135 since 2008)!!!! So lets see, you are calling a Manny,who was at 138 his prior fight, a coward for not fighting at 147 limit BUT now calling Manny, the 147 champ, again the coward for not coming down to 140??? For you, Manny must jump hoops or else he is a coward.
To repeat, you called a Manny, who came in at 138 (prior fight) a coward (oops I meant to say "b1tch-move catchweight") for NOT fighting Cotto at 147 ( you said, how dare Manny fight him at 145) But Marquez, a 135lb fighter, you see it entirely different and still call Manny a coward!!!!
AGAIN, that is what you call being hypocrite.


Also, going by your above statements, isn't Marquez also a P4P champ who wants Manny, the WW champ, at a catch-weight of 7 lbs below his WW limit? Oh, while it was a loss, Marquez even fits the part about already fighting at 147..... lol!





8)
LEADUPPERCUT: No I didn't, stop crying, I said that he cannot be given full credit for that accomplishment = go figure, you fkn genius - and that the catch-weight demand was a b1tch-move by pacroid to ATTEMPT to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

ADP02 RESPONSE: You must be the only guy saying that they tried to drain Cotto who previously came in at 146. 1lb difference...... BUT you are OK with Manny scraping off 4-5lbs of muscle just to make your day and get this fight on. Right? What's the difference you hypocrite and more importantly WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS FIGHT ANYWAYS WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY MAKING EXCUSES AS TO WHY MARQUEZ IS GOING TO LOSE?

Told you ya shoulda listened.....
"It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"..... lol!




9)
ADP02 : Marquez has had plenty of opportunity now to have come up to 140+ but he hasn't yet. That is NOT Manny's problem nor fault. Marquez is to blame for that.

LEADUPPERCUT: He doesn't want 140, he wants Manny, what is your problem ?

ADP02 RESPONSE: lol!!! Why? To begin with you wanted it to be "fair" but all Marquez should have done is prove he can even fight at 140 BECAUSE you and the other Manny haters will post that Manny was supposed to beat a 135lb OLD Marquez anyways ..... lol!



Like I have told you a long time ago, I like Marquez but THIS OLD Marquez will get smoked at 140+ and that is why I hoped Manny gets to fight someone else. You on the other hand have called Manny a coward constantly (YES, even at 147!!!) but now are making more and more excuses for Marquez ... SO, LIKE I SAID A WHILE BACK, WHAT's THE POINT NOW, especially, if you agree that it will mean nothing at this point if Manny beats Marquez?

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[LeadUppercut]

Manny is a coward..........

Firstly, Sir Whinealot.....

Jeez you fkn whine dude, tell me, what is your point? I actually read that entire dribbly post, but still have no idea what the hell your point was?

1)YOU SAID: You shouldn't start, here is why....."It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".....

So why did you talk? I guess you wanted to show me how YOU can be a fool? Just asking ...


Well, I raised the question about whether you are a fool, your post answered that question, there is no doubt about that

Jeez dude, and you walked in with your eyes open


2) ADP02 RESPONSE:So I was right, AGAIN that you called him a coward. Thanks for admitting it. Furthermore, you have also said on occasion that Manny would be a coward and not fight Marquez if Marquez accepts 147.

So you should have stayed silent, as you said above, right?


No kid. Your first sentence is correct, I have definitely called Manny a coward, for 7 different reasons actually. Ask me, and I will post them for you.

Secondly, nope, you are full-of-****, I have never said that "Manny would be a coward and not fight Marquez if Marquez accepts 147".....

So, you should have kept your mouth shut, because that "fool" label is starting to stick like **** to a blanket.


3)ADP02 RESPONSE:Isn't it you who has been all over these boards wanting this fight? I told you that Marquez would get smoked if they fought but you countered that Manny is a coward. Now you are swaying more and more to Manny winning. First, you gave the advantage to Manny, due to the weight BUT now you are adding what I told you way back. That this is an old Marquez at 140+ has little chance .... SO STOP WITH THESE COWARD POSTS OF YOURS IF YOU SAY THAT MARQUEZ HAS A VERY SLIM TO NONE CHANCE!!!!


Firstly..... Kid, it is extremely dishonest to make **** up, and it is also extremely dishonest to put words in people's mouths, I would suggest that you refrain from doing that if you want to retain any credibility.

I have stated on many occasions that I do not give a **** about the Pac/JMM fight unless it is held at 140. That is common knowledge dude, so stop making things up and twisting comments to suit your agenda.

Secondly, I have NEVER stated that I think Marquez can beat Manny at 140, EVER. So your absolutely dishonest assertion that I am "adding what I told you way back"..... is you trying to act like a grown-up instead of a dishonest lil kid.

If you doubt that, then surely you can manage to find an old post of mine contradicting that standpoint. And, good luck with that btw.

Stop making things up you dishonest clown.


Oh, why you bringing up that Marquez is a career featherweight when he hasn't fought there in (4-5) years? Its not fair of Manny picking on Marquez? ....... Remember to point out next time that Marquez has been at 135+ since 2008

So you should have stayed silent, as you said above, right?


You fkn moron, you are a Manny-hugger who knows absolutely nothing about boxing. A career [insert division here] means that the fighter fought in that particular division up until past-his-prime.

FACT: JMM fought at 126 until past-his-prime.

Many fighters stay within one division their entire career, that has nothing to do with "ability", that relates to body-type.

Was Marquez prime in 2008 kid ?

BTW, I will not charge you for that lesson, but if you waste much more of my time with your whining you may get a bill.



4)ADP02 RESPONSE:AGAIN, Manny is now the WW Champ but you want him to come down 7lbs, because as you said, the limit for a WW champ is 147 NOT 146, NOT 145 and certainly NOT 140. If you can't accept Cotto coming down 2 lbs from the limit and post those points OVER AND OVER AGAIN, then are you not being hypocritical by asking a WW champ to come down 7lbs? "Manny may be able to make the weight BUT so was Cotto able to. HYPOCRITE, that's all it is, man!!!

So you should have stayed silent, as you said above, right?


Kid, I am getting sick of having to wipe your arse.

About time you grew up and started wiping your own aint it ?

That entire whiney comment was based on the fact that according to you "Manny is a welterweight"..... well, you fool, according to Alex Ariza and Freddie Roach, Manny is a natural JWW who can easily make 140.

Read the link below, but before you do, give yourself an uppercut for being so ******..... actually, yet again, dishonest is a better adjective.

*** you come up with some whiney bull**** kid

Post #106.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...443596&page=11

It starts "To all of the posters that know more about Manny's singing prowess than his boxing abilities", so, it is directed toward you personally.


5)ADP02 RESPONSE:I already told you what I think about this BUT Manny doesn't need to claim anything. Its in the books buddy ... BUT Manny tried and didn't think he can stay at 154 because 150 was already too much. What's your problem? You can see this with Marquez (not coming up to 147) but not with Manny? You must be a hater!!! Manny can try again but to call him a coward as you do, is nonsense.


what a gullible clown, falling for that crap. Manny NEVER intended to fight a genuine JMW, they just wanted to steal a vacant JMW title. You have zero credibility for buying into that **** dude.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10...-pacman-fights


6)ADP02 RESPONSE: The other guy accused Manny of being a cheat then saying, "you still want to fight me under Floyd's new rules?" What did you expect? How is this being a hypocrite when its called negotiating? lol!


HUH?

I understood most of that other whiney rubbish you wrote, but I don't get that one. Enlighten me, this'll be fun, I bet your "point" has about as much validity as a used tampon.


7)ADP02 RESPONSE:You forgot your response the other day that even Marquez would have beat that Oscar? You didn't even count it (legit) because of your twisted reasoning. Remember? lol ... That is what you call being hypocrite.

PLUS Manny ONLY WEIGHED 142 against Oscar and in his fight prior to Cotto, Manny weighed in at 138 ONLY(FIRST TIME AT THAT WEIGHT WHILE MARQUEZ HAS FOUGHT AT 135 since 2008)!!!! So lets see, you are calling a Manny,who was at 138 his prior fight, a coward for not fighting at 147 limit BUT now calling Manny, the 147 champ, again the coward for not coming down to 140??? For you, Manny must jump hoops or else he is a coward. To repeat, you called a Manny, who came in at 138 (prior fight) a coward (oops I meant to say "b1tch-move catchweight") for NOT fighting Cotto at 147 ( you said, how dare Manny fight him at 145) But Marquez, a 135lb fighter, you see it entirely different and still call Manny a coward!!!!
AGAIN, that is what you call being hypocrite.

Also, going by your above statements, isn't Marquez also a P4P champ who wants Manny, the WW champ, at a catch-weight of 7 lbsbelow his WW limit? Oh, while it was a loss, Marquez even fits the part about already fighting at 147..... lol!


You are what I call a pig-ignorant fan-boy.

The catch-weight for Cotto was a b1tch-move, plain and simple.

FACT: JMM is a LW
FACT: Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140
FACT: You are a whiney b1tch


8)ADP02 RESPONSE:You must be the only guy saying that they tried to drain Cotto who previously came in at 146. 1lb difference...... BUT you are OK with Manny scraping off 4-5lbs of muscle just to make your day and get this fight on. Right? What's the difference you hypocrite and more importantly WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS FIGHT ANYWAYS WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY MAKING EXCUSES AS TO WHY MARQUEZ IS GOING TO LOSE? Told you ya shoulda listened.....
"It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"..... lol!


Oh come on kid, this site is FULL of posters who can see that the completely unnecessary catch-weight demand on Cotto was a low-life b1tch-move to attempt to drain him, because Manny had already fought at 147.

You have the standards of a $5 whore, and your hero is a cowardly cherry-picking b1tch.

Jeez dude, you bought up Cotto, and then attempted to throw around that "fool" word.

Ma dude, that "fool" label is starting to fit you like a glove.


9)ADP02 RESPONSE:[/B] lol!!! Why? To begin with you wanted it to be "fair" but all Marquez should have done is prove he can even fight at 140 BECAUSE you and the other Manny haters will post that Manny was supposed to beat a 135lb OLD Marquez anyways ..... lol!

Like I have told you a long time ago, I like Marquez but THIS OLD Marquez will get smoked at 140+ and that is why I hoped Manny gets to fight someone else. You on the other hand have called Manny a coward constantly (YES, even at 147!!!) but now are making more and more excuses for Marquez ... SO, LIKE I SAID A WHILE BACK, WHAT's THE POINT NOW, especially, if you agree that it will mean nothing at this point if Manny beats Marquez?


Of course it doesn't. Only a non-boxing fanboy like you could possibly think that a fight now at 147 with a 38yo Marquez is going to prove anything. In fact, that is a totally ignorant ***wit thing to say kid.

As I said, you were far better off keeping your mouth shut at the risk of looking like a fool (nut-hugging fanboy clown) than opening it and removing all doubt.

You win, doubt gone, point proven

BTW, like my post title ?

[LeadUppercut]

ADP, you are attempting to reply to EVERY SINGLE COMMENT that I make.

The problem is, you have almost nothing of substance with which to reply.

So you are " filling up " your bullet-pointed highlights with any damn thing that comes to mind.

Rather than trying to swamp me with rubbish when attempting to reply to EVERY SINGLE COMMENT, just stick to valid points that are obvious.

Your attempts at justification come across like whiney excuses, because they are badly lacking in substance.

Concentrate on quality, rather than quantity.