Comments Thread For: Pacquiao, Arum To Discuss Marquez November Trilogy

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What's with the essays in this thread?

ADP02 whines like a b1tch.

He responds to EVERY SINGLE COMMENT with a tirade of dishonest whiney excuses. Just put him on ignore like I did ^^

[ADP02]

ADP02 whines like a b1tch.

He responds to EVERY SINGLE COMMENT with a tirade of dishonest whiney excuses. Just put him on ignore like I did ^^

Sure I do. lol!

This is coming from someone who continually flashes his 6 or more points at every poster that he doesn't like their comment.

Nice try but we all know the TRUTH now. Just admit it. You speak from 2 sides of your mouth and hate that you got caught doing so.

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Your position is solely based on the exact same childish whiney excuses that the non-boxing fanboy ADP02 bases all of his uninformed "opinions" on

You wanna watch that, or your credibility will plummet like his did

total bs. don't ever give me that career bullcrap. it's nothing. absolutely nothing. challengers and beggars can't be choosers. just like pac agreed to the terms of the champ when he was. besides, if you think marquez is that weak. then tell him to stop calling out pac.

147 is just the maximum they can come in the fight. again, marquez doens't have to blow himself up. besides, pac doens't even like this fight. the unfinished business is over for him. he doens't like marquez as a dancing partner. he is too boring for him. all he does is wait and counter. pac is an entertainer. he feels uneasiness when no action is taking place. he doens't want to disappoint the paying public. pac wants dancing partners who can dance with him. look at what happened with marquez in his fight with mayflower. he was bloated and forced to be the aggressor than do his usual counter.

point is, it's no big deal for pac if this fight doens't happen.

And so it was, credibility gone

Firstly, you are wrong.....

FACT: JMM is a career-FW, who currently campaigns at lightweight

boxer: Juan Manuel Marquez
division: lightweight
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...2222&cat=boxer

FACT: Manny is a natural JWW, and can easily make 140 according to both Alex Ariza and Freddie Roach

http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...t-middleweight
http://www.strengthspeedagility.com/...aining-program
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ible-physique/
http://www.pacquiao-margarito.com/en...-inner-circle/
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=621958
http://ezinearticles.com/?Boxing-Rin...nce&id=2546429
http://www.pacquiaovsmargarito.net/w...ight-pacquiao/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ment-at-first/
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...o-inner-circle

Secondly, how come you did not respond to this part of my post ?

The issue is.....

* Manny will not afford Marquez the same luxury that he DEMANDED from Cotto and Margarito, even though JMM is currently campaigning TWO DIVISIONS lower than Pac

* Manny used size as an excuse to duck Sergio Martinez, and he has previously used catch-weights on more than one occasion, but he will not fight JMM unless the midget jumps TWO DIVISIONS to 147, which is higher than when Manny won his WW title

* This is just a continuation of the same type of cherry-picking manipulation that has permeated the latter part of Manny's career, exactly like it says here.....

"However, this fight only makes sense to me if it takes place at junior welterweight (and I would hope Marquez would weigh-in under 140 pounds). Why Pacquiao and company refuse to even consider fighting Marquez at 140 pounds (instead of the 144 or 147 they stipulate) is a very good question. The answer is obvious: they want every conceivable advantage against their aging but still-dangerous nemesis".....
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1...friday-mailbag

I can see why you ignored that part, I just wanna hear you explain it.

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challengers and beggars can't be choosers. just like pac agreed to the terms of the champ when he was

What fkn champ you dishonest clown ?

Cotto ?

How about you *** off with that whiney dribble, and go pick your double standards up off the floor, you two-faced clown.

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a classic *******

*******s and floydiots or whatever you call them makes you laugh..

But what's even more silly and laughable are those anti-*******s or anti-floydiots who keep NAME-CALLING first: "*******s here" , "floydiots there" instead of just stating their arguments simply.

We can therefore call them ANTI*******-TARD, or ANTIFLOYDIOT-DIOTS.

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this is total bs. i'd believe it if manny is way bigger than marquez. marquez is even taller than manny for phuk's sake. nahh. that's utter garbage. these fighters can come in at their comfortable weight. marquez doens't have to bloat himself up for the fight just like manny didn't in his fight with marg. if marquez can't have the capacity to do that, then he needs to challenge some small guy he can bully. he doens't deserve the fight. he's too weak to fight the pacman, if that is what you are saying.

He is. He's fought his last six fights at welterweight and wasn't able to make 130, or 135 anymore. Marquez could still make 130 easily. His last fight he weighed in at 133 or 132 for a lightweight title.

Marquez has only had five fights at lightweight in his career and 90% of his entire career has been fought at 126. He's a featherweight through and through.

Pac is a natural 140 pounder. It's why he was the same size as Cotto and Hatton and had no problem with size. Marquez, at 142 against Mayweather (who was also fighting at 106 when he was 16 and has done the exact same weight division rise as Pacquiao, though much of it was through the amateur ranks instead of pro. You're not going to say Mayweather was the same size as Marquez are you?), looked fat and small in comparison, while Pac at 142 looks like he has always been a natural, comfortable 140 pound fighter. When Marquez jumps in the ring against small, chubby lightweights looking smaller and slight in comparison while Pac jumps in against solid 140 and 147 pounders and doesn't look smaller, it tells you something about his real size. It's why Nazeem has always contented that a lot of these guys lose the fight because they think he's small when in fact he's just as big as them, plus has that extra speed, power etc which equals anyone in their divisions but they think they will just steamroll him because "he's a midget".

As Richardson said, "How he ever made anything below 140 is what amazes me" after he had met him and actually seen how big he is in real life.

Paul Williams is taller than James Toney, Mike Tyson and a bunch of other heavyweights. Is he bigger than them? No, of course he's not. Pac is bigger than Marquez easily.

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He is. He's fought his last six fights at welterweight and wasn't able to make 130, or 135 anymore. Marquez could still make 130 easily. His last fight he weighed in at 133 or 132 for a lightweight title.

Marquez has only had five fights at lightweight in his career and 90% of his entire career has been fought at 126. He's a featherweight through and through.

Pac is a natural 140 pounder. It's why he was the same size as Cotto and Hatton and had no problem with size. Marquez, at 142 against Mayweather (who was also fighting at 106 when he was 16 and has done the exact same weight division rise as Pacquiao, though much of it was through the amateur ranks instead of pro. You're not going to say Mayweather was the same size as Marquez are you?), looked fat and small in comparison, while Pac at 142 looks like he has always been a natural, comfortable 140 pound fighter. When Marquez jumps in the ring against small, chubby lightweights looking smaller and slight in comparison while Pac jumps in against solid 140 and 147 pounders and doesn't look smaller, it tells you something about his real size. It's why Nazeem has always contented that a lot of these guys lose the fight because they think he's small when in fact he's just as big as them, plus has that extra speed, power etc which equals anyone in their divisions but they think they will just steamroll him because "he's a midget".

As Richardson said, "How he ever made anything below 140 is what amazes me" after he had met him and actually seen how big he is in real life.

Paul Williams is taller than James Toney, Mike Tyson and a bunch of other heavyweights. Is he bigger than them? No, of course he's not. Pac is bigger than Marquez easily.

If Manny is bigger than Marquez then they should not fight each other. Great! Let's move on and have Manny fight someone his own size. OK? It kind of makes sense, anyways.


I would prefer Manny fight someone who people will not say, why is Manny fighting a smaller, much older, out of prime fighter. At least Mosley is bigger and possesses KO power and for that reason, it makes it a bit interesting .... but after Mosley, lets have Floyd or at least a TRUE WW, or at the very least a TRUE top JWW that is prime, young and threatening. Marquez is too small, older and doesn't fit any of the above!

OK, if you all feel that way about it, let's just forget about that fight (Manny vs Marquez). I'm OK with that. I would actually be glad about that.....

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He is. He's fought his last six fights at welterweight and wasn't able to make 130, or 135 anymore. Marquez could still make 130 easily. His last fight he weighed in at 133 or 132 for a lightweight title.

Marquez has only had five fights at lightweight in his career and 90% of his entire career has been fought at 126. He's a featherweight through and through.

Pac is a natural 140 pounder. It's why he was the same size as Cotto and Hatton and had no problem with size. Marquez, at 142 against Mayweather (who was also fighting at 106 when he was 16 and has done the exact same weight division rise as Pacquiao, though much of it was through the amateur ranks instead of pro. You're not going to say Mayweather was the same size as Marquez are you?), looked fat and small in comparison, while Pac at 142 looks like he has always been a natural, comfortable 140 pound fighter. When Marquez jumps in the ring against small, chubby lightweights looking smaller and slight in comparison while Pac jumps in against solid 140 and 147 pounders and doesn't look smaller, it tells you something about his real size. It's why Nazeem has always contented that a lot of these guys lose the fight because they think he's small when in fact he's just as big as them, plus has that extra speed, power etc which equals anyone in their divisions but they think they will just steamroll him because "he's a midget".

As Richardson said, "How he ever made anything below 140 is what amazes me" after he had met him and actually seen how big he is in real life.

Paul Williams is taller than James Toney, Mike Tyson and a bunch of other heavyweights. Is he bigger than them? No, of course he's not. Pac is bigger than Marquez easily.

Great post man.

But some clown will just reply to you and inform you that their fight-night weights are the same