Who has a better resume Berto or Ortiz??

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • RubenSonny
    Lagos State of Mind
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Mar 2010
    • 4747
    • 287
    • 388
    • 11,330

    #21
    Originally posted by tito_bandito
    As an Ortiz fan I'll admit Berto has a slightly better resume than Ortiz. As a World champ though Berto has not faced good opposition. The fact that Ortiz is the best opponent Berto has faced tells a lot. A younger and lighter weight fighter is Berto's best opponent? Really? People don't give Ortiz much props for the Harris fight. Compare Matthysse vs Harris to Ortiz vs Harris and look at who was much more dominant. That's part of the reason I give Ortiz the benefit of the doubt when he said the double gaughs wrap affected him in the Peterson fight which he shoulda won and almost KO'd Peterson.
    Ortiz has done nothing to suggest hes a better opponent than Collazo.

    Comment

    • tito_bandito
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Dec 2009
      • 2063
      • 79
      • 0
      • 18,188

      #22
      Originally posted by RubenSonny
      Ortiz has done nothing to suggest hes a better opponent than Collazo.
      He has better tools than Collazo to beat Berto let's see what he can do with them

      Comment

      • RubenSonny
        Lagos State of Mind
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Mar 2010
        • 4747
        • 287
        • 388
        • 11,330

        #23
        Originally posted by tito_bandito
        He has better tools than Collazo to beat Berto let's see what he can do with them
        What does better tools mean exactly? No point having "tools" when you can't use them, boxing is hugely mental.

        Comment

        • Walt Liquor
          the opposite of pure
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Feb 2009
          • 21667
          • 913
          • 1,369
          • 40,313

          #24
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
          Watch Campbell vs. Juan Diaz, or even Ali Funeka, those were his last good showings. The guy was done, couldn't pull the trigger. Well actually, no, I wouldn't consider the Funeka fight a good showing, the man was done. The Juan Diaz fight was his last good performance.
          first two rounds of funeka was a good showing

          Comment

          • Walt Liquor
            the opposite of pure
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Feb 2009
            • 21667
            • 913
            • 1,369
            • 40,313

            #25
            Originally posted by tito_bandito
            He has better tools than Collazo to beat Berto let's see what he can do with them
            better tools than collazo? he has a better d than collazo? really? please elaborate on all these tools...especially against world class type opposition

            he has better head movement, feints, combos and inside game than this, against world class fighters?

            very interesting, what you say

            https://<iframe title="YouTube video...reen></iframe>

            https://<iframe title="YouTube video...reen></iframe>

            Comment

            • Rome-By-Ko
              The winner Is
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Mar 2009
              • 20157
              • 323
              • 332
              • 29,833

              #26
              Originally posted by tito_bandito
              As an Ortiz fan I'll admit Berto has a slightly better resume than Ortiz. As a World champ though Berto has not faced good opposition. The fact that Ortiz is the best opponent Berto has faced tells a lot. A younger and lighter weight fighter is Berto's best opponent? Really? People don't give Ortiz much props for the Harris fight. Compare Matthysse vs Harris to Ortiz vs Harris and look at who was much more dominant. That's part of the reason I give Ortiz the benefit of the doubt when he said the double gaughs wrap affected him in the Peterson fight which he shoulda won and almost KO'd Peterson.
              Ortiz was outboxed and stunned many times by Peterson,Ortiz mentally is not what he use to be..Berto will take full advantage,sorry bro Ortiz is done and Berta is the hand that will lay the final blow..

              Comment

              • Rome-By-Ko
                The winner Is
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Mar 2009
                • 20157
                • 323
                • 332
                • 29,833

                #27
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                better tools than collazo? he has a better d than collazo? really? please elaborate on all these tools...especially against world class type opposition

                he has better head movement, feints, combos and inside game than this, against world class fighters?

                very interesting, what you say

                https://<iframe title="YouTube video...reen></iframe>

                https://<iframe title="YouTube video...reen></iframe>
                Now put video of Ortiz Peterson(I would but I'm at work)Collazo is far better then Ortiz..Ortiz just has more hype then Collazo..

                Comment

                • MXboxingfan
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1053
                  • 36
                  • 20
                  • 7,194

                  #28
                  The record of Victor Ortiz is equivalent to Julio César Chávez Jr.'s record.

                  Victor Ortiz fought a blown up Roberto David Arrieta at light welterweight.

                  Victor Ortiz fought Hector Alatorre who had up 8 losses on his record.

                  Victor Oritz fought shot and previously retired Antonio Díaz at a catchweight.

                  Victor Ortiz fought a shot and blown up Nate Campbell at light welterweight.

                  Victor Ortiz fought a shot Vivian Harris, who was coming off a loss to Lucas Matthysse.

                  Comment

                  • MXboxingfan
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1053
                    • 36
                    • 20
                    • 7,194

                    #29
                    Originally posted by tito_bandito
                    As an Ortiz fan I'll admit Berto has a slightly better resume than Ortiz. As a World champ though Berto has not faced good opposition. The fact that Ortiz is the best opponent Berto has faced tells a lot. A younger and lighter weight fighter is Berto's best opponent? Really? People don't give Ortiz much props for the Harris fight. Compare Matthysse vs Harris to Ortiz vs Harris and look at who was much more dominant. That's part of the reason I give Ortiz the benefit of the doubt when he said the double gaughs wrap affected him in the Peterson fight which he shoulda won and almost KO'd Peterson.
                    Berto has a far better record that Ortiz. Berto should not be wasting his time Ortiz.

                    Comment

                    • El_Forklift
                      THUNDER FROM DOWN UNDER
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1490
                      • 79
                      • 264
                      • 8,034

                      #30
                      Originally posted by MXboxingfan
                      Berto has a far better record that Ortiz. Berto should not be wasting his time Ortiz.
                      Haha like he wants better opposition.....

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP