Who has a better resume Berto or Ortiz??

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  • Walt Liquor
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    #11
    anyone in here care to throw a couple educketts on ortiz? I'll take berto.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #12
      Originally posted by Lazerjab
      This fight showed me that Ortiz can box effortlessly...
      You call that boxing?

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      • El_Forklift
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        Campbell was done, and the sad part was...Ortiz ran from him. Berto's win over Urango is much much better.
        Good point, but resume wise at that time Campbell didnt seem to washed up it was more danger on taking a Campbell than a Urango...

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          #14
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
          You call that boxing?
          Did you watch the fight??

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #15
            Originally posted by Lazerjab
            Good point, but resume wise at that time Campbell didnt seem to washed up it was more danger on taking a Campbell than a Urango...
            Watch Campbell vs. Juan Diaz, or even Ali Funeka, those were his last good showings. The guy was done, couldn't pull the trigger. Well actually, no, I wouldn't consider the Funeka fight a good showing, the man was done. The Juan Diaz fight was his last good performance.
            Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 03-18-2011, 02:05 PM.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #16
              Originally posted by Lazerjab
              Did you watch the fight??
              Yeah, twice, I call that running, literally.

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              • tito_bandito
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                #17
                As an Ortiz fan I'll admit Berto has a slightly better resume than Ortiz. As a World champ though Berto has not faced good opposition. The fact that Ortiz is the best opponent Berto has faced tells a lot. A younger and lighter weight fighter is Berto's best opponent? Really? People don't give Ortiz much props for the Harris fight. Compare Matthysse vs Harris to Ortiz vs Harris and look at who was much more dominant. That's part of the reason I give Ortiz the benefit of the doubt when he said the double gaughs wrap affected him in the Peterson fight which he shoulda won and almost KO'd Peterson.
                Last edited by tito_bandito; 03-18-2011, 02:09 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Lazerjab
                  IMO Ortiz has Campbell, Maidana, Pederson are better than Collazo, Quintana and Forbes .... Im not counting Urango he was way too small in that fight...

                  What you guys think?
                  lol urango way too small? he probably was outweighed 1-2 lbs by berto at fight time. even at jr welter, urango has always weighed 150 ish. against berto he's probably in the 152-154 range.

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                  • New England
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Lazerjab
                    IMO Ortiz has Campbell, Maidana, Pederson are better than Collazo, Quintana and Forbes .... Im not counting Urango he was way too small in that fight...

                    What you guys think?

                    Chino knocked him out.

                    they've been fighting a simmilar level of competition and have caught serious slack for it in their respective divisions.

                    berto's got the better looking resume in my eyes if you are comparing them straight up. it helps that he's a WW obviously. he's been fighting larger men for the most part. he also started his career as a jr mw.

                    quintana and collazo would both give ortiz trouble.
                    ortiz got the win over collazo
                    and starched quintana

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                    • Rome-By-Ko
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                      #20
                      This is close imo both have **** resume..I would say Bertos resume is better..Berto at least is undefeated as well,Ortiz best fighter he fought made him quit..Ortiz ran from Campbell,imo he was outboxed by Peterson so even tho Ortiz fought good opponents he did not do well in those fights..So I think that gives Berta the edge..

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