Paul Williams Got A Gift Against Martinez : Confirmed

[BigStereotype]

I don't think it was a "gift." That fight is so close that it's easy to see anybody winning. I've scored it three times, scored it once for P-will, twice for Martinez, all of them by one or two points. When a fight is that tight, it's hard to say that somebody got robbed. That one scorecard was downright shameful, though.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I don't think it was a "gift." That fight is so close that it's easy to see anybody winning. I've scored it three times, scored it once for P-will, twice for Martinez, all of them by one or two points. When a fight is that tight, it's hard to say that somebody got robbed. That one scorecard was downright shameful, though.

So were the other 2.

Giving the first round to Williams is inexcusable.

[Walt Liquor]

The other 2 are just as bad for scoring the first round 10-9 Williams.

why? wrong. each was kd's, whether you think one was harder than the other, a kd is a kd

[Dirk Diggler UK]

why? wrong. each was kd's, whether you think one was harder than the other, a kd is a kd

Even if we use that logic, how do you score the round for Williams?

A 10-10 at worst

[Shadows]

I thought Martinez nicked it down the stretch but even I knew he wasn't going to get a decision regardless of how close the fight may have been.

Pretty overrated fight IMO.

[Mr. Philadel]

Daggum contributes alot to this forum.

co-sign!!!!!!!

[Beater_of_ass]

Even if we use that logic, how do you score the round for Williams?

A 10-10 at worst

Um... no, if you take the knockdowns at counting each other Williams won the first round. The only reason Sergio deserved to win (as I thought he did) was because his was a real knock down, not a slip but some judges do things different and if they didn't care if PWill was hurt (It was at like the 3 second mark) he won the rest of the round.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Um... no, if you take the knockdowns at counting each other Williams won the first round. The only reason Sergio deserved to win (as I thought he did) was because his was a real knock down, not a slip but some judges do things different and if they didn't care if PWill was hurt (It was at like the 3 second mark) he won the rest of the round.

They didnt care that Williams was hurt?

And you DONT see whats corrupt about that?

[paulf]

You got to remember judges ringside see a different fight than the one we see from multiple angles on TV.

It was a close fight and two of the scorecards were close.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

1st Round

Williams grazes Martinez on the shoulder and he goes down. Williams hits thin air for most of the rest of the round.

Martinez staggered Williams with a left. Hit him with solid right hooks. Knocked him down. Hurt him. Had his eyes rolling in the back of his head.

I just dont see anyway that round can be scored for Williams. What did he do?

Technically for the scoring system, it could at worst be an even round because of Williams "knockdown".

But to those saying "Williams won the rest of the round" - HOW?