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  • -Kev-
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    #61
    Originally posted by LeadUppercut
    For ***'s sake man, why don't you learn something about the sport.

    * Margo was NEVER an elite fighter

    * Margo is now, a washed-up bum

    * When Manny fought him for a JMW title, Margarito could not have even beaten any of the top welters, let alone JMW's

    * Martinez would fkn kill cheato, it would be a bad mismatch, just like a Pac/Martinez fight would be

    * Your adoration of Margarito is absurd nuthugging fan-boy rubbish
    Margarito couldn't even stop the journeyman he fought before Pacquiao.

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    • LeadUppercut
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      #62
      Originally posted by sapaw
      "Martinez did confirm last week he has no plans to move up to the crowded 168-pound division, because with a smaller, 5-foot-10 frame, he would be giving away too much size. " http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box. ..ory?id=6216573

      And why he is asking welterweights 5-foot-6 frame to fight him on 154 lbs and outweigh his opponent by 20+ lbs on fight night?? hypocrisy at his best lol
      Rubbish !!

      The difference between your viewpoint, and Sergio's, is this.....

      Sergio is a man, and he thinks like a fighter, you guys are kids, and you think like fan-boy's..... piling on the bull**** excuses for Manny, yet again.

      Martinez wants one of the TWO BIGGEST PAYDAY"S in boxing, and to get those payday's he is prepared to make 154, and he is prepared to fight two guys that have BOTH held JMW titles.

      " hypocrisy at his best " ?

      Hypocrisy is when a supposed P4P fighter who insists that he is a genuine JMW champ and 8-division titlist, will not front up and fight a genuine JMW, ANY genuine JMW.

      That's hypocrisy dude, wake up.

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      • Kobayashi
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        #63
        ``I`m really a junior middleweight. I`m not a really big guy really``

        I like Martinez... until he open his mouth. He`s ****ing hypocrite. His last fight at 154 was 2 years ago again Kermit Cintron, been fighting at middleweight since.

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        • LeadUppercut
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          #64
          Originally posted by sapaw
          if he is natural 154 lbs, why he vacate that and choose 160lbs???? I highlight your contradicting "opinion"... If you are natural 154 lbs, then why you having problem making that weight????
          Everybody can see that Martinez is a large JMW who can still make 154.

          BTW, Martinez didn't vacate, he was stripped, so that Manny could cheat history and be given a JMW title that he does not deserve.

          What was that word you mentioned earlier?

          Oh yeah, hypocrisy..... that was the word.

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          • beatnutts
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            #65
            You know, there's a lot of damn haters in boxing right now. Sergio's been fighting good competition while looking good, doesn't complain about anything, gives respect to other fighters but you still have these damn fanatic fans whining like girls.

            You wanna know who are hypocrites, Mayweather and Manny. These guys went up to 154 for phony reasons. Mayweather went up and fought Oscar, who was over the hill and did he stay there and fight real middleweight guys, no. Manny went up to 154 and fought someone who had virtually no experience at 154, someone who just tried to cheat, got knocked out and suspended for a year, for a vacant title. Manny won but did he stay there and try to defend it against a real 154 boxer, no. One guy doesn't know if he is retiring or piling up more felonies and the other guy fights in house guys.

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            • AIR_KENG
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              #66
              So apparently he needs more time to go to 168 because his body is not that big. But keeps on demanding a fight with Pac or Floyd who are really not big enough for 154.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Kobayashi
                ``I`m really a junior middleweight. I`m not a really big guy really``

                I like Martinez... until he open his mouth. He`s ****ing hypocrite. His last fight at 154 was 2 years ago again Kermit Cintron, been fighting at middleweight since.
                Martinez had almost an entire year off after beating Cintron. You forget he's only really been at middleweigh for a little bit over a year since his first fight against Williams was in late December 2009. And that fight was still practically at Jr middleweight. He didn't gain much weight because he was a late replacement for Pavlik.
                Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 03-17-2011, 07:40 PM.

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                • pinoypunch
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by boxingfan76
                  thats total and utter BULLSHIAAT! martinez is a natural 154lb, and he fights at 160lbs also, he doesnt need to move up to prove hes number one in the eyes of many hes already number #1! pac keeps moving up and down and each time he does he faces the crappiest competetion with a name he can find! hows that make him number 1???? it doesnt, besides princess pacroid has fought and just won a belt at 154lbs , him running away the second somebody good at that weight class says alot about his legitamacy.hell pac wont even face the best at 147!!! pac is a hype job and his record proves it dude has never fought a single guy of their career or physical prime with the exception of jmm and clottey.mayweather and pac need each other lets face it neither guy has fought anybody very good.castillo and corrales (for fraud jr) , and jmm thats a LLOOOOOONG tIME AGO!
                  Who the hell did Martinez beat? What was his name, Sergei Dzinziruk? Very good record but not a great fighter.

                  But dont count out Pacquiao just yet. He might take up the challenge. Maybe a fight in 150 coz he is the one calling out the little guy. LOL.... Calling out little guys...
                  Check this article > http://philboxing.com/news/columns.php?aid=609&id=52505

                  FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS FOLKS, PACQUIAO VS. MARTINEZ COULD HAPPEN
                  By Manny Piņol
                  PhilBoxing.com
                  18 Mar 2011

                  Curiousity led me to the short video clip, apparently posted by MP Boxing.Com in the Internet, showing Filipino boxing icon Manny Pacquiao watching the last few moments of Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez's demolition of previously undefeated Serhiy Dzinziruk last week and what I saw led me to conclude that the Argentinian champion may just get what he is asking for: Pacquiao versus Martinez.

                  You see, I have known Manny a bit longer than many of the *******s clogging the philboxing.com forum, long before the appearance of people who now swarm around him and who press their faces near Pacquiao's just to get inside the television cameras' frames during his post-fight interviews.

                  I and my brothers staged two of Manny's fights in Kidapawan City 12 years ago, first against Australian Todd Makelin and later against Thai Wethya Sakmuangklang for the World Boxing Council (WBC) International Featherweight title in the newly-completed North Cotabato Provincial Gymnasium which was filled to the rafters by fans who came from all over Mindanao.

                  Later, I and my bosom friend, former Davao City Mayor Rody Duterte teamed up to stage his defense of the International Boxing Federation (IBF) Featherweight title against No. 1 contender Fhraprakorb Rakkiatgym in the World's Biggest City in land area. Pacquiao demolished the Thai in less than two minutes and earned his first big purse of P10 million.

                  And having known him quite long enough, Manny has given me the opportunity to study his personality and interpret his body language.

                  Manny Pacquiao grew up among tough kids in the streets. He was the kind of boy who would take up a challenge when dared and most of all, having survived the odds in life early on, Pacquiao had developed a persona who wants to excel in everything he does.

                  To my mind, this is the reason why Manny bets big in ****fights and occasionally in the casino. The "You can't top me" attitude is the motivation. It is not the desire to win more money.

                  This is the reason why he dabbles in billiards playing against the best, plays excellent basketball, appears in the movies and even sings. These are all manifestations of the "If you can do it, I can do it, as well" attitude developed in his younger years surviving the jungles of life.

                  All these years, even when he had already reached the pinnacle of success and achieved what no other boxer in the history of the sport had done -- 8 divisional boxing titles -- Manny Pacquiao remained child-like. He finds joy and comfort in being appreciated.

                  The morning after he demolished Oscar dela Hoya, Manny gave me a surprise call. Right after the fight, I flew to Chicago with my brother, Patricio, and my wife and that was where I got his call. And all that he asked was: "Unsay tan-aw nimo sa akong away kay Dela Hoya?" followed by a chuckle. (How did you see my fight against Dela Hoya?)

                  When I told him: "Hurot na akong bilib sa imo" (You have my greatest admiration!), I heard a childlike laughter from the other end of the line.

                  People also have to understand that Manny Pacquiao relishes in tough challenges. He is a fearless fighter as manifested in his attitude minutes before he fought Marco Antonio Barrera.

                  Seeing that his handlers, including his former manager, the late Rod Nazario, Moy Lainez and Lito Mondejar were restless considering that it was a tough fight, Manny told them: "Bakit kayo ang kinakabahan, eh ako naman ang lalaban?" (Why are you scared. It is I who will fight.) And he proceeded to destroy Barrera.

                  Why am I relating all these?

                  It is because you have to have a glimpse into Manny Pacquiao's personality to understand and interpret his body language and his reaction to the Martinez dare after his win over Dzinziruk.

                  That wry smile, which looked like a smirk, and the timid "Ok" when asked of his reaction to Martinez's demolition of Dzinziruk showed a Manny Pacquiao already fed up with the public dare and challenge being put up by the Argentinian champion and his handlers, especially promoter Lou DiBella.

                  He and his group intently watched the ending of the fight and comments like "mabagal" (slow) and "hindi naman malakas, malaki lang" (he is not really that strong, he is just big) were heard.

                  I interpreted that to mean that Manny Pacquiao was already studying Martinez's fighting style, strengths and weaknesses.

                  But the most revealing part of the video was when Manny Pacquiao asked those around him, including younger brother Bobby: "Anong tim**** paglalabanan namin?" (At what weight would we fight?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk_-Z...layer_embedded.

                  Hearing that, I made the conclusion: Manny Pacquiao will fight Sergio Martinez. He will take the dare. I smell a fight.

                  And Sergio Martinez better be prepared.

                  Wrath has no equal than a Manny Pacquiao dared.

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pinoypunch
                    Who the hell did Martinez beat? What was his name, Sergei Dzinziruk? Very good record but not a great fighter.

                    But dont count out Pacquiao just yet. He might take up the challenge. Maybe a fight in 150 coz he is the one calling out the little guy. LOL.... Calling out little guys...
                    Check this article > http://philboxing.com/news/columns.php?aid=609&id=52505

                    FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS FOLKS, PACQUIAO VS. MARTINEZ COULD HAPPEN
                    By Manny Piņol
                    PhilBoxing.com
                    18 Mar 2011

                    Curiousity led me to the short video clip, apparently posted by MP Boxing.Com in the Internet, showing Filipino boxing icon Manny Pacquiao watching the last few moments of Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez's demolition of previously undefeated Serhiy Dzinziruk last week and what I saw led me to conclude that the Argentinian champion may just get what he is asking for: Pacquiao versus Martinez.

                    You see, I have known Manny a bit longer than many of the *******s clogging the philboxing.com forum, long before the appearance of people who now swarm around him and who press their faces near Pacquiao's just to get inside the television cameras' frames during his post-fight interviews.

                    I and my brothers staged two of Manny's fights in Kidapawan City 12 years ago, first against Australian Todd Makelin and later against Thai Wethya Sakmuangklang for the World Boxing Council (WBC) International Featherweight title in the newly-completed North Cotabato Provincial Gymnasium which was filled to the rafters by fans who came from all over Mindanao.

                    Later, I and my bosom friend, former Davao City Mayor Rody Duterte teamed up to stage his defense of the International Boxing Federation (IBF) Featherweight title against No. 1 contender Fhraprakorb Rakkiatgym in the World's Biggest City in land area. Pacquiao demolished the Thai in less than two minutes and earned his first big purse of P10 million.

                    And having known him quite long enough, Manny has given me the opportunity to study his personality and interpret his body language.

                    Manny Pacquiao grew up among tough kids in the streets. He was the kind of boy who would take up a challenge when dared and most of all, having survived the odds in life early on, Pacquiao had developed a persona who wants to excel in everything he does.

                    To my mind, this is the reason why Manny bets big in ****fights and occasionally in the casino. The "You can't top me" attitude is the motivation. It is not the desire to win more money.

                    This is the reason why he dabbles in billiards playing against the best, plays excellent basketball, appears in the movies and even sings. These are all manifestations of the "If you can do it, I can do it, as well" attitude developed in his younger years surviving the jungles of life.

                    All these years, even when he had already reached the pinnacle of success and achieved what no other boxer in the history of the sport had done -- 8 divisional boxing titles -- Manny Pacquiao remained child-like. He finds joy and comfort in being appreciated.

                    The morning after he demolished Oscar dela Hoya, Manny gave me a surprise call. Right after the fight, I flew to Chicago with my brother, Patricio, and my wife and that was where I got his call. And all that he asked was: "Unsay tan-aw nimo sa akong away kay Dela Hoya?" followed by a chuckle. (How did you see my fight against Dela Hoya?)

                    When I told him: "Hurot na akong bilib sa imo" (You have my greatest admiration!), I heard a childlike laughter from the other end of the line.

                    People also have to understand that Manny Pacquiao relishes in tough challenges. He is a fearless fighter as manifested in his attitude minutes before he fought Marco Antonio Barrera.

                    Seeing that his handlers, including his former manager, the late Rod Nazario, Moy Lainez and Lito Mondejar were restless considering that it was a tough fight, Manny told them: "Bakit kayo ang kinakabahan, eh ako naman ang lalaban?" (Why are you scared. It is I who will fight.) And he proceeded to destroy Barrera.

                    Why am I relating all these?

                    It is because you have to have a glimpse into Manny Pacquiao's personality to understand and interpret his body language and his reaction to the Martinez dare after his win over Dzinziruk.

                    That wry smile, which looked like a smirk, and the timid "Ok" when asked of his reaction to Martinez's demolition of Dzinziruk showed a Manny Pacquiao already fed up with the public dare and challenge being put up by the Argentinian champion and his handlers, especially promoter Lou DiBella.

                    He and his group intently watched the ending of the fight and comments like "mabagal" (slow) and "hindi naman malakas, malaki lang" (he is not really that strong, he is just big) were heard.

                    I interpreted that to mean that Manny Pacquiao was already studying Martinez's fighting style, strengths and weaknesses.

                    But the most revealing part of the video was when Manny Pacquiao asked those around him, including younger brother Bobby: "Anong tim**** paglalabanan namin?" (At what weight would we fight?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk_-Z...layer_embedded.

                    Hearing that, I made the conclusion: Manny Pacquiao will fight Sergio Martinez. He will take the dare. I smell a fight.

                    And Sergio Martinez better be prepared.

                    Wrath has no equal than a Manny Pacquiao dared.
                    Rubbish, the fight will never happen, that is a dream-land fantasy.

                    Three reasons.....

                    Martinez is too slick/skilled, he is on top of his game, and he is too big.

                    Come on, he would murk Manny, depending on how fast Roach stopped it.

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                    • daggum
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                      #70
                      the chavez jr-zbik winner stole his belt so obviously he can't fight them because thats the same reason he won't fight pirog. promoter fail!

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