Comments Thread For: Team Martinez: Forget Pacquiao, Bring Mayweather, Cotto

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Who gives Mayflower any credit for Gatti ?

Floyd actually ***ed that up himself with his pre-fight antics when he shredded Gatti as a fighter in front of the world.

And BTW, I wasn't discrediting anybody.

You were insinuating that the 145lb catchweight demand made no difference to the outcome of that fight.

I was pointing out that was not the reason Cotto lost, but that it was a b1tch-move to attempt to drain him.

Just because the bullet may have missed, does not lessen the intent

there was no intent. catchweights criticisms are shams due to the fact that there is 24 hr rehydration. cotto weighed in at 146 vs clottey. 1 lb difference along with teh 24 rehydration rule makes that point moot.

[LeadUppercut]

stop ****ing frontin son. we have 24 hour news cycle that talk about athletes & celebrities personal lives. athletes & celebrities every wrong move are fodder for tabloids & water cooler talk at the office.

Grow up and get a life kid. Stop being such a little girl, crying over what other people do in their personal lives. Go watch Oprah Winfrey if you're desperate for that ****.

get off your fake ass high horse & moral high ground.

It's not fake.

I truly do not give a **** what other people do in their personal lives.

manny cheating on his wife? thank god. have you seen his wife? i would think less of pac if he didnt take advantage of the fruits of his very hard labor.

Clownboy......

How about you grow up and "get off your fake ass high horse & moral high ground"..... if you truly "would think less of pac if he didnt take advantage of the fruits of his very hard labor"..... then why the *** have you wet yourself over Mayflower's idiot antics?

You " encourage " Pac to cheat on his wife, and enjoy the fruits of his labour by breaking his matrimonial vows, and yet Mayflower poking some clown and backhanding some ho has you wetting your panties

Fake-ass high-horse indeed

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there was no intent. catchweights criticisms are shams due to the fact that there is 24 hr rehydration. cotto weighed in at 146 vs clottey. 1 lb difference along with teh 24 rehydration rule makes that point moot.

Don't be absurd.

There should be no such thing as a catch-weight fight, especially considering that fights are no longer sanctioned under the original 8 divisions.

Catch-weight contests were originally conceived to enable a match-up between two opponents that would normally never meet because of weight disparity.

Those fights were known as an " exhibition match ".

Any type of event/bout that takes place at catch-weight, should be officially classified as an exhibition match, and should not be sanctioned by the ABC bodies.

There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....

1.) you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which deems the bout an exhibition match and should therefore not be sanctioned

2.) you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage

Pac tried to drain Cotto, because he had already fought at 147.

That was a b1tch-move, plain and simple.

[GRUSTLER]

because that's the reason why cotto lost.

They should atleast respected the champion enough to let him weigh 147. If the 2lbs difference didn't matter. How come the fight couldn't be at 147 like the De La Hoya fight prior? Not trying to go there. My point is that Cotto was not highly regarded at the time Mosley beat Margarito. Would have been far more impressive if Pac fought Mosley instead of Cotto and to deny that just shows you are not thinking about it logically or rationally but only defending Manny for taking fights that ain't really do much for the people that watched them fights. The only thing them fights were is to make Pac look good without the high risk of losing. Now he's fighting Mosley? A guy he should have fought in 2009 when he was #1.

[l3xxer]

bring on Ward vs Martinez!

Andre beats Martinez tho.. Ward is kinda like a bigger version of Floyd Mayweather with Timothy's head

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bring on Ward vs Martinez!

Andre beats Martinez tho.. Ward is kinda like a bigger version of Floyd Mayweather with Timothy's head

Yep, Ward has fought at LH, he's too much for Serg.

LMAO at the description

"Ward is kinda like a bigger version of Floyd Mayweather with Timothy's head"



Stop pickin on ma boy's, their pugilistic use of ALL of their assets..... is exaggerated. Plus..... all's fair in love, war, and boxing

[MayMosPeaHop]

Who gives Mayflower any credit for Gatti ?

Floyd actually ***ed that up himself with his pre-fight antics when he shredded Gatti as a fighter in front of the world.

And BTW, I wasn't discrediting anybody.

You were insinuating that the 145lb catchweight demand made no difference to the outcome of that fight.

I was pointing out that was not the reason Cotto lost, but that it was a b1tch-move to attempt to drain him.

Just because the bullet may have missed, does not lessen the intent

The bullet did not miss. Just look at Cotto during the beginning of his fight with Margarito and look at him at the beginning of the Pacquiao fight. A novice could see the difference.

[GRUSTLER]

there was no intent. catchweights criticisms are shams due to the fact that there is 24 hr rehydration. cotto weighed in at 146 vs clottey. 1 lb difference along with teh 24 rehydration rule makes that point moot.

Roach doesn't think so....

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P4P best fighter in the sport?


Freddie Roach On Mayweather/Pacquiao.
"It would have to be a catch weight, probably 143, 144 (pounds)," Roach said. "I don't think it would be at 147. But Manny's not afraid of anyone."

Freddie Roach, May 1 2009

Roach said that though a “Mosley fight is probably the most exciting because they both like to fight,” it's all about making the fight on even terms.

"I have to protect my fighter,” said Roach, who administered the terms for Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya last year. “I spoke to Shane and told him that we would fight him at 142. He said he can’t make that weight.”

Mosley asked why not 147, as Manny/Oscar was set at 147? Roach said that Mosley is not De La Hoya in terms of setting a weight handicap.

Pac fans are too in love with Manny that their blind to facts Arum, Roach and Pac himself put out there on front street.

[Ray*]

Cotto is the only fighter who would actually step up and demand the fight for 154, Those other two would look away, one would use the promoter excuse, while the other would claim he isnt interested in boxing right now.

[GRUSTLER]

D Fraud never won a bogus tittle because da Fraud only beat BOGUS opponents! Who is Baldimir compared to Cotto.

Well.... for one....Baldomir was the Lineal champion. 2, people say Floyd ducked Margarito for an easier fight in Baldomir BUT Margarito didn't think Baldomir was a scrub.......

"Mayweather should be the favorite," Margarito said, "but Baldomir's a dangerous fighter. We'll see."

Case closed.