Why are Pac/May expected to move up in weight but not Sexy Sergio?

[IMDAZED]

but both floyd and pacquaio are not elite at 154.

They both didn't feel comfortable making one 154 and went back down to 147.

Pacquaio couldn't even make 150 at fight night......what makes you think he can make 154.

Who said Pacquiao had to? He didn't make 150, did he? Did that stop him? And FLoyd only weighed 148 for Oscar.

[DrewWoodside]

A career JMW that's been at MW for like 5 minutes. I'm sure he'd have to make a ton of money for what would likely be a career ending fight at SMW. He is in a spot where there aren't anymore proven MWs or even JMWs out there for him to fight.

A Mayweather fight would be competitive, Pac fight would look ridiculous and IMO not so much.

I think MW is garbage, and no one at JMW can pose a threat to him. I'd kind of like to see him get it on with Cotto, as that would really boost his drawing power but.. I don't think Uncle Bob would have any interest in that fight.

[S.G.]

Pac and May have exhausted the options at welter and both successfully fought at light middle before, so why shouldn't they move up? The fact is, besides each other, the only interesting opponents left are bigger than them.

[DrewWoodside]

Pac and May have exhausted the options at welter and both successfully fought at light middle before, so why shouldn't they move up? The fact is, besides each other, the only interesting opponents left are bigger than them.

IMO, Pacquiao's experience at 154(or 150) told him it's one weight division too many. If Berto can make some sort of statement, he may be viable. Also, as much as it's a bit late, fans would still buy and enjoy a JMM fight. And from a stylistic standpoint, it could answer some questionis and produce a challenge for him.

[Jim Jeffries]

I think MW is garbage, and no one at JMW can pose a threat to him. I'd kind of like to see him get it on with Cotto, as that would really boost his drawing power but.. I don't think Uncle Bob would have any interest in that fight.

There is a ton of talent at MW which I think will make it one of the top 5 divisions in a couple of years, but no one left that is proven right now. Cotto would be a good money fight, but Miguel has done crap all at 154 and I can't see how he'd stand a chance in hell.

[victorythagr8]

Who said Pacquiao had to? He didn't make 150, did he? Did that stop him? And FLoyd only weighed 148 for Oscar.

So in your word, you just want them to be ****** and fight the best middle weight even though they been fighting from lower weight classes and dominated the upper weight class and now you want to move up another weight class(pacquaio never fought at 154...he fought at a catchweight of 150.


Ok since it cool for Pacquaio and floyd to fight martinez in a higher weight class that they are not comfortable with.

Then i guess its cool with you if we can have a Pacquaio vs Marquez 3 at 147. Marquez already fought at 147. Hey since according to you, its ok to move up in weight that you are not comfortable with. Hey marquez can stay at his common fight night weight. And both fighter will not give up a weight advantage.


And you know i hated when Oscar called out pacquaio and jump 2 weight class.

I also hated it when Floyd fought marquez at 147.

I wouldn't even support Marquez vs Pacquaio.

So what makes you think i would want to support martinez calling out a fighter 2 weight class under him.

And the only catch weight fight i truely supported was Oscar since oscar was ***** for ducking margarito and made pacquaio move up to 147. Thank god pacquaio whooped his ass to retirement for that bull**** move.

According to your logic Marquez vs Pacquaio is an ok fight.

[BOLLOCKS]

Martinez already moved up to beat Pavlik, a man many expect him to lose against, because he couldn't get big fights at 154, if he hadn't of took it and won teh fight, he probably wouldn't have gotten teh rematch with Williams, and now it's being used against him.

[IMDAZED]

So in your word, you just want them to be ****** and fight the best middle weight even though they been fighting from lower weight classes and dominated the upper weight class and now you want to move up another weight class(pacquaio never fought at 154...he fought at a catchweight of 150.


Ok since it cool for Pacquaio and floyd to fight martinez in a higher weight class that they are not comfortable with.

Then i guess its cool with you if we can have a Pacquaio vs Marquez 3 at 147. Marquez already fought at 147. Hey since according to you, its ok to move up in weight that you are not comfortable with.


And you know i hated when Oscar called out pacquaio and jump 2 weight class.

I also hated it when Floyd fought marquez at 147.

I wouldn't even support Marquez vs Pacquaio.

So what makes you think i would want to support martinez calling out a fighter 2 weight class under him.

And the only catch weight fight i truely supported was Oscar since oscar was ***** for ducking margarito and made pacquaio move up to 147. Thank god pacquaio whooped his ass to retirement for that bull**** move.

According to your logic Marquez vs Pacquaio is an ok fight.

You sound desperate. Fall back and think for a second. Once you get your logic on par with reality, we can continue this conversation. Really think here.

[V.WEBB]

Pac and May have exhausted the options at welter and both successfully fought at light middle before, so why shouldn't they move up? The fact is, besides each other, the only interesting opponents left are bigger than them.

I have no problem with Manny or Floyd moving to 54 to fight Sergio. I would LOVE it actually. But the reality is, they won't, because Sergio is just too much of a risk.

[DrewWoodside]

There is a ton of talent at MW which I think will make it one of the top 5 divisions in a couple of years, but no one left that is proven right now. Cotto would be a good money fight, but Miguel has done crap all at 154 and I can't see how he'd stand a chance in hell.

Cotto won't really stand a chance and Arum will never let it happen. But Cotto is one of the best P4P draws in the game. It would be good for building Martinez' star, but anyways it won't happen. I think Martinez is too good right now, and has too much momentum to waste time with a guy like Pirog.. And Pirog is probably one of the best looks at MW of fighters Martinez hasn't already beaten. If Martinez was a little younger, mapping his next couple steps wouldn't seem so urgent. Too bad that's not the case.