Official: Sergio Martinez-Sergiy Dzinziruk and undercards discussion thread

[Dave Rado]

You didn't prove your argument conclusively - you should have stated what you knew Pac and Cotto weighed on their fight night. I know for sure though, that Michael Buffer announced their weigh-ins as Pac-144, Cotto-145.

Pac's fight night weight was 148, Cotto refused to release his, but most people believe his fight night weight is usually between 156lb and 160lb.

BTW, whose fault is it if Pac claims he cannot hydrate as much as some of his opponents anyways? The modern rule of the beautiful science allows for hydration overnight, that's just the way it is, so deal with it (unless it is expressly forbidden by a contract I suppose?) You can't just chose and pick which rules are good for Pac.

P34c3

It's not a matter of anybody claiming anything, Pac's fight night weights are well known. And it's not a matter of not being able to rehydrate - he hardly dehydrates in the first place, since he has fought at Welterweight, whereas most other fighters boil down in saunas and by not eating or drinking. You can only rehydrate if you dehydrate first.

[Dave Rado]

the fact that Martinez wants to fight Pac at the weight Pac had previously fought in, doesn't mean he (Martinez) is not interested in other MWs; or have you read/heard him say so?

P34c3

When he was asked who he would like to fight, he did not mention a single Middleweight (or Super Middleweight). Only Pac, Mayweather, and subsequently, Cotto. And so far he has not defended his lineal Middleweight title against a single Middleweight.

[Dave Rado]

The close-result nature of the Pac/Marquez fights is as a result of their skills levels, not because of their frames or the weights those frames carry, AND because styles make fights. See?

P34c3

If you seriously believe Marquez would have just as good a chance against Pac at Welterweight as he would if the fight was at Lightweight, words fail me and I can't take anything else you say seriously. Do you also think Marquez could also beat up Cotto and Clottey if he fought them at Welterweight? He turned down a fight with Khan because he thought he'd lose, FFS!

And if your frame has nothing to do with how much weight you can carry while being at peak effectiveness, then that means you think any fighter can weight absolutely anything they like and still be just as effective, which is so totally ridiculous it's hard to believe that you really wrote that. You'll be saying Pac should fight Vitali next.

[duwdu]

Dave Rado, I honestly don't know how to carry on arguing against these your confused emotional statements and innuendos, so I quit; yes, you win the argument. Let's both run go get a life.

P34c3