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[Video] Al Bernstein on why Pacquiao would beat Mayweather via decision.

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  • #31
    There's no way Pacquiao would go into a fight with Mayweather aiming to throw 1000 punches. It's not unrealistic to see Pacquiao winning a decision against Mayweather, he probably moves better than Mayweather at this point and he doesn't have to throw a ton of punches, he just has to throw substantially more than Mayweather.

    People talk about Marquez but Marquez's counter punching is completely different than Mayweather's counter punching. Pacquiao wouldn't have the same problems as he did with Marquez, he'd have different problems.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      floyd doesn't counterpunch against southpaws. watch every fight he's ever had against them he always tries to get off first because his defense is leaky against them. he also doesn't have the firepower or combo punching marquez has which allows marquez to halt aggressive fighters.
      aka "straight right down the pike"

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      • #33
        This goes beyond Mayweather's inability to fight southpaws. Mayweather himself knew a fighter with as much power and speed would be too dangerous at welterweight. He knew something many members here didn't when he avoided Pacquiao. Bernstein sees this.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
          First things first Al

          If we've learned anything its that you cant compare fighting Floyd to previous opponents. It doesnt work. Punch count goes down off top.
          Pac will throw 800 tops. In actuallity Pac'sbest chance is early while floyd is feeling him out

          Secondly, I just watched some of Pac's recent fights and you know what all had in common? They were leaning down to Pac's punching level. It is no doubt Floyd will not. He always fights head up even in the guarded position.

          Next. Pac will be the hunter and not the hunted like in his latest fights. That being said there is one mistake Floyd can make and thats laying on the ropes at any point and letting Manny fire away. You have to know May is smarter than that. Manny also likes to throw tester punches like the jab that he admires at times. Check the DLH and Cotto fights. They were not qick enough to capitalize. Floyd hits him. When he throws that tester which he is basically trying to see if an opponent is commiting to defense only for the moment. Once he realized they were fully commited then its X-mas for him and let the violence commence. But we also know that Mayweather doesnt do long exchanges.

          What we also have seen is that Pacquiao will take breaks on the ropes in later rounds(Margarito fight). Anyone throwing that many punches has to. The problem for him with that is Floyd wont go crazy. The punches will be pin point. Floyd wont allow him to slide and fire either because he'll use the ref as his third arm. When Manny decides to slide and throw Floyd will hold which isnt popular but is effective.

          Last but not least ( this is where I disagree with the world) I'll talk about Pacquiao's "extraordinary" punching power. The reality is Floyd hits harder. In Pacquiao's last fights he didnt show Tyson type power for his weight. Even the KO of Hatton was not a lucky shot but one of those once or twice in a lifetime shots and even before that connect he had to soften him up with many landed punches. With Cotto,Margs and DLh its obvious it was an accumilation of punishment. Not that its any less impressive but when we're talkin Floyd Mayweather its likely he wont get those types of repeated opportunities. Floyd doesnt have to fear his power only refrain from eating combos. If I'm wrong then show me the last time if any that Floyd took three or four straight clean shots. Aint happnen.

          The obvious response would be Floyd hasnt seen a fighter like Pac(goes both ways) or you could try to convince yourself that he will have new tricks up his sleeve like an actual "defensive plan". The man's defensive progression is only a less reckless offense. Unless Mayweather dives in throwing combos its elementary.

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          • #35
            2 things about Pac that absolutely baffle me are just how poor his defense is and how poor his jab is. NOBODY that gets hit 221 times by Antonio Margarito is beating Floyd Mayweather, not happening, not in this life time, not ever. Pac fans talk about how much he has improved since his fight with Marquez in 2008, bit it literally just isn't true. His jab is still trash, he still has miserable defense, he still lunges in, and he's still a counter punchers dream come true. I'm not being biased, but you simply cannot say from a technical standpoint that he has improved drastically.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Marcov View Post
              This goes beyond Mayweather's inability to fight southpaws. Mayweather himself knew a fighter with as much power and speed would be too dangerous at welterweight. He knew something many members here didn't when he avoided Pacquiao. Bernstein sees this.
              If mayweather is unable to fight southpaws... Why did he adjust and win against all southpaws he faced?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Chopper417 View Post
                2 things about Pac that absolutely baffle me are just how poor his defense is and how poor his jab is. NOBODY that gets hit 221 times by Antonio Margarito is beating Floyd Mayweather, not happening, not in this life time, not ever. Pac fans talk about how much he has improved since his fight with Marquez in 2008, bit it literally just isn't true. His jab is still trash, he still has miserable defense, he still lunges in, and he's still a counter punchers dream come true. I'm not being biased, but you simply cannot say from a technical standpoint that he has improved drastically.
                Thats exactly right and the fanboys cant see it because they can only see whats in their face on face value , they dont have the insight to be able to read form , all they see is Pac landing at will on a sloth lol , Floyd will cut Mannys work rate in half thats a given , they cant see the difference between Floyd and Mannys opponets and even from haters that amazes me , boy oh boy are they in for a shock , Floyd will beat Manny easily because his skills are too far ahead of Pac , Floyd has a slight size advantage and nobody smaller than Floyd will beat him , Floyd also has the range covered he will keep Pac exactly where he wants him because when Floyd fights long he has reach thats way out there , the biggest issue I see is Floyds inactivity and he aint getting younger , Manny is actually in a better position fight wise by fighting regular as they have been easy fights .

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  floyd doesn't counterpunch against southpaws. watch every fight he's ever had against them he always tries to get off first because his defense is leaky against them. he also doesn't have the firepower or combo punching marquez has which allows marquez to halt aggressive fighters.
                  True their countering is different. Marquez counters and starts a war. Thats why he sometimes ends up on his ass. Floyd wont have to counter a whole lot. He will be served best to fight the big man fight. Jab jab jab. He has more reach and he'll use it. The counters will come late when Pac slows

                  Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                  This is where Pac loses this fight everyday of the week twice on sunday for me..
                  Yeah if he tries to outbox Floyd it will be too easy.

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                  • #39
                    one aspect of the potential fight that intrigues me is this....

                    Floyd has gotten a little older now and relies heavily on "leaning" just out of range then blasting his counter right over the top....

                    Manny jumps in with his punches alot....especially behind a 3-4 punch combo that is started by his "weak" jab (followed by a straight left/right upperhook/left body shot).....

                    When this sequence comes to fruittion....I would love to see how Floyd adjusts/ Manny adjusts....that would be the key to the fight for me....

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                      Firstly, Why do people get upset when an analyst picks against their favourite fighters? Secondly i disagree with Al, How many punches did Pac threw against JMM (The only counter-puncher he has fought over the last few years)..

                      Pac would not throw 1000 odd punches because he knows he would play right into Mayweather's hand, And whenever he throws he leaves himself open for counters, That is the beauty in fighting a counterpuncher, Calculating how Mayweather would make Pac miss 600 punches out of 1000 is totally wrong lol.
                      Throwing less punches against a counter-puncher is a sure way to defeat. That is exactly how counter punchers want it, to make the opponent think he will get countered if he comes in so they throw less punches. The key to success against counter-punchers is to throw a lot of combos. A counter puncher can block/avoid two three combo shots but not an avalanche of punches. That is how to defeat floyd.

                      My opinion.

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