[Video] Al Bernstein on why Pacquiao would beat Mayweather via decision.

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  • brick wall
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    #41
    Originally posted by Chopper417
    2 things about Pac that absolutely baffle me are just how poor his defense is and how poor his jab is. NOBODY that gets hit 221 times by Antonio Margarito is beating Floyd Mayweather, not happening, not in this life time, not ever. Pac fans talk about how much he has improved since his fight with Marquez in 2008, bit it literally just isn't true. His jab is still trash, he still has miserable defense, he still lunges in, and he's still a counter punchers dream come true. I'm not being biased, but you simply cannot say from a technical standpoint that he has improved drastically.
    that **** doesn't hold weight anymore. even floyd doesn't believe that...that's why he demanded ost. if he thought pac is an easy fight like you do we should have seen that fight already without any demands and controversies. pac having a poor jab, poor defense and zero chance doesn't jive with ost demand.

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    • Heru
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      #42
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
      I somewhat agree with his premise, which is Pacquiao would win if it goes to a decision (although I believe Mayweather could win it if gets to that point too), but I disagree with why he thinks what he does.

      When they fight, Mayweather will cut into Pacquiao's usual output by using a combination of footwork, feinting, and counter punching. Mayweather isn't going to just stand in front of Pacquiao and block (Clottey) or have to take 5 punches before being able to counter (Margarito).

      The footwork, feinting, and counter punching will reduce Pacquiao's output to 600-800 punches. That 200 punch difference will make the difference in who gets the decision. It will be Pacquiao's quantity against Mayweather's quality, but the difference will be 100-300 punches, not 400-600.

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        #43
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        I dont think the judges would like floyd against Pac. They would favour Pac. Floyd has looked good with his style against inferior boxers. But Pac is not like anything Floyd has faced, and Floyd probably thinks that as well.

        Thats why he is very reluctant. But if he has decided he wants Pac, he will have been training for Pac for years now, and not the traditional 8 weeks before the fight. Pac has been fighting a lot, and that has given Floyd plenty of time to study Pac. Come on now, what else do people think Floyd does with his time? Dont let him fool you he can take years off and still come back similar to what he was.
        All of his opponents were inferior boxers because he's the best boxer in the sport... and its pointless bringing up that "OH FLOYD HAS NEVER FACED SOMEONE LIKE PAC"... neither has Pac.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Chopper417
          Corley landed a few good shots and Judah gave him some trouble for 4 rounds before getting completely destroyed. It's just something Pac fans use to point out weaknesses in Floyd's game. In all reality Mayweather has only had 2 close fights in his entire career (Castillo 1 and DLH) but when you are that good people just have to nit pick to find anything (not to mention Floyd is just held to a completely different standard than anyone else). Meanwhile Floyd pitches a shutout against Marquez who beat Pac 16 out of 24 rounds and Pac fans somehow still conjur up ways that Pac is going to KO Floyd. You kinda just have to laugh at it really.

          I will say this though, for a person of Al Bernstein's boxing background and knowledge to say something as ridiculous as Manny will throw over 1,000 punches against Floyd is just completely bizarre. Anyone who truly knows both of these fighters and knows boxing knows that there is literally NO CHANCE Manny gets 1,000 punches off against Mayweather. Pac only got off around 650 in both of his fights with Marquez. Just a completely ludicrous statement. One of Floyd's biggest strengths is controlling his opponents punch output. Someone please name me a Mayweather opponent who has thrown 1,000 punches against Floyd.
          Green K given.


          *Oops. I'm playing for a different team now.*

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            #45
            Pac's output would come down from the 1000s to mid-500 and then he would probably land 15-20% of that mid-500 all night.

            Al thinks Pac wins a decision because Pac would throw is normal 1000s and then land 500, compare to Mayweather who would throw 550 most and land 40% (200 ish).. So but that is a silly way to judge.

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              #46
              Originally posted by daggum
              floyd doesn't counterpunch against southpaws. watch every fight he's ever had against them he always tries to get off first because his defense is leaky against them. he also doesn't have the firepower or combo punching marquez has which allows marquez to halt aggressive fighters.
              Excellent point!!!!!!!!

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                #47
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                I can agree with some of this but when was he hurt against Judah?
                I beleive it was in the 2nd round, don't quote me on that but his knees buckled and his glove touched the canvas and was not ruled a knock down.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by P4P305
                  Green K given.


                  *Oops. I'm playing for a different team now.*
                  I want the old P4P305 back...

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jai mari078
                    I beleive it was in the 2nd round, don't quote me on that but his knees buckled and his glove touched the canvas and was not ruled a knock down.
                    Maybe stunned, don't recall Mayweather ever getting hurt against Judah, and I've literally seen that fight about 20-30 times.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                      I want the old P4P305 back...
                      05/08/2011 12:00 AM, i will make my return.

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