Floyd Mayweather at 34 is DONE in terms of greatness

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

The extremism in this place always makes me laugh.

"Floyd is just a good fighter" "Floyd was a - never was - "....hahaha

Floyd is a GREAT fighter, unless you are a blind imbecile, that is plain to see. This is the biggest knock on Floyd though...

Boxing is like college football, you are only as good as your competition. Floyd's best win was probably against Castillo or Corrales, that was it. He always cherry picked his opponents and made sure he never really put himself in big time problems.

This is the main reason his undefeated record isn't as impressive as one would think just looking at it.

Legacy is the only thing you have as a fighter. Of course money is important and what pays the bills but once you reach the status of Floyd, Oscar, Pacquaio, it should be LEGACY that motivates you. He has said it many times and I think he's being honest when he says that he fights only for a paycheck.

He cares nothing about legacy and as long as he is undefeated, he will convince himself and the people around him will constantly tell him he is the greatest of all time.

The reality is, he will be remembered as a fighter who never fought the best in their prime and ducked Pac.

We will never see him fight Pac, time has run out. With his legal issues, age and his ridiculous demands, Pac vs Mayweather won't happen. Pac won't hang around much longer and neither will Mayweather because he is too scared of losing that perfect record.

Best thing we can do as fans is forget this fight and all the drama that goes with it.

[champ_kw]

Floyd could have done 10 times what he has accomplished given his abilities and has probably wasted perhaps the best boxing skillset of the last 40 years. Floyd has accomplished great things but he could have been remembered along side Robinson but instead he will be remembered as the guy who never lived up to his own hype.

What hype? He came up in the era of Oscar, Tito, Roy, Lennox, etc. Floyd's "coming out party" was against Gatti. Prior to that, Floyd was considered a great talent who couldn't gain any hype because every fight looked the same after 4 rounds and he hardly ever went seeking a knockout. Lampley even mentioned during the Judah fight that that was the first time Floyd was able to sell out in Vegas where he stayed. So to be honest, Floyd is where he is because every pundit, promoter, boxer, fan, etc knows his skill set is unmatched. It's not because he cusses or did a stint on Dancing with the Stars. He's been a World Champ for over a decade. The guys you root for now weren't even considered contenders when this man was a Champion. You have over a decade worth of work on him and the most you can say is he's been in one close fight, and got obviously hurt one time in his career. Over a decade of championship fights or championship caliber fights, hundreds of thousands of punches thrown at him, 40 plus opponents, and you can only pinpoint one close fight and one time being hurt. Now I guess since Margarito and Cotto aren't on his resume, he's a wasted talent? And calm down on the Pac fight. Neither of their careers are over so that fight may still happen. Again, just be a fan of the sport and I promise you'd be less stressed out over what individual fighters do.

[champ_kw]

The extremism in this place always makes me laugh.

"Floyd is just a good fighter" "Floyd was a - never was - "....hahaha

Floyd is a GREAT fighter, unless you are a blind imbecile, that is plain to see. This is the biggest knock on Floyd though...

Boxing is like college football, you are only as good as your competition. Floyd's best win was probably against Castillo or Corrales, that was it. He always cherry picked his opponents and made sure he never really put himself in big time problems.

This is the main reason his undefeated record isn't as impressive as one would think just looking at it.

Legacy is the only thing you have as a fighter. Of course money is important and what pays the bills but once you reach the status of Floyd, Oscar, Pacquaio, it should be LEGACY that motivates you. He has said it many times and I think he's being honest when he says that he fights only for a paycheck.

He cares nothing about legacy and as long as he is undefeated, he will convince himself and the people around him will constantly tell him he is the greatest of all time.

The reality is, he will be remembered as a fighter who never fought the best in their prime and ducked Pac.

We will never see him fight Pac, time has run out. With his legal issues, age and his ridiculous demands, Pac vs Mayweather won't happen. Pac won't hang around much longer and neither will Mayweather because he is too scared of losing that perfect record.

Best thing we can do as fans is forget this fight and all the drama that goes with it.

Please explain the "always" part....

[johnm is...]

The extremism in this place always makes me laugh.

"Floyd is just a good fighter" "Floyd was a - never was - "....hahaha

Floyd is a GREAT fighter, unless you are a blind imbecile, that is plain to see. This is the biggest knock on Floyd though...

Boxing is like college football, you are only as good as your competition. Floyd's best win was probably against Castillo or Corrales, that was it. He always cherry picked his opponents and made sure he never really put himself in big time problems.

This is the main reason his undefeated record isn't as impressive as one would think just looking at it.

Legacy is the only thing you have as a fighter. Of course money is important and what pays the bills but once you reach the status of Floyd, Oscar, Pacquaio, it should be LEGACY that motivates you. He has said it many times and I think he's being honest when he says that he fights only for a paycheck.

He cares nothing about legacy and as long as he is undefeated, he will convince himself and the people around him will constantly tell him he is the greatest of all time.

The reality is, he will be remembered as a fighter who never fought the best in their prime and ducked Pac.

We will never see him fight Pac, time has run out. With his legal issues, age and his ridiculous demands, Pac vs Mayweather won't happen. Pac won't hang around much longer and neither will Mayweather because he is too scared of losing that perfect record.

Best thing we can do as fans is forget this fight and all the drama that goes with it.

Cuauht, this is why I like you. You keep it real, sir. Truth, without trolling.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Please explain the "always" part....

He's been smart and his handlers been smart. Like I said, his two best wins were Corrales and Castillo. He promised to fight Marg when Marg was the most feared man in boxing, even shaking his hand and that fight never happened.

He promised to fight Pac and then AFTER the verbal agreement, started with all this steroid stuff.

He fought a smaller Hatton, an old Oscar, a way old Mosley, broken down Gatti, old Baldomir, WAY smaller JMM, I mean I can go on and on.

Cuauht, this is why I like you. You keep it real, sir. Truth, without trolling.

I try man, anyone who trolls, has ZERO life outside if the internet. I just want to talk boxing.

[lfc19titles]

This is one of the worst post in history other than pacman he has the best resume in boxing of course he is an atg the only difference between his resume and pacmans is Cotto.

You are a waste of human life.

lmao, you achieved what you claim. Your post is shocking, Morales, Maruqez and barrera at their best weights or very near them are his best wins. pacs resume is a mile, yes a mile ahead of mayweathers. You know nothing kid.

[Pin Galarga]

His legs are gone, he's 34, he never really was a GREAT fighter, just a really good fighter who could've been great. He achieved a lot, like beating DLH and Hatton, but that's about it. He's a huge "what-if".

I think you are blinded by you dislike of him. Mayweather is NOT done at 34, His leg work is still one of the best and his skills are undenialable to any unbias fan.
What I do think is that He's making wrong desicions in both his professional and personal life.
His head go to big to realize that you are only as good as your last fight.
He has been influence to believe that Manny's success is due to juicing and He has good points when it comes to analizing a guy who was rocked at 105, but looks indestructable as a welterweight.
The problem that I see is that He's not fighting a guy like Martinez to show He is the #1, He's not fighting anyone of his caliber and loosing credibility by not fighting the best out there beside Manny.
I still think He has hand problems and that He is only fighting once a year to deal with his fragile hands, but don't get me wrong.
Skill wise, He is the #1 and at 34 He is not done at all. He just needs to be done with all the self idoling and start showing He's the best boxer today.
Actions speak louder than words always.

[IMDAZED]

I think you are blinded by you dislike of him. Mayweather is NOT done at 34, His leg work is still one of the best and his skills are undenialable to any unbias fan.
What I do think is that He's making wrong desicions in both his professional and personal life.
His head go to big to realize that you are only as good as your last fight.
He has been influence to believe that Manny's success is due to juicing and He has good points when it comes to analizing a guy who was rocked at 105, but looks indestructable as a welterweight.
The problem that I see is that He's not fighting a guy like Martinez to show He is the #1, He's not fighting anyone of his caliber and loosing credibility by not fighting the best out there beside Manny.
I still think He has hand problems and that He is only fighting once a year to deal with his fragile hands, but don't get me wrong.
Skill wise, He is the #1 and at 34 He is not done at all. He just needs to be done with all the self idoling and start showing He's the best boxer today.
Actions speak louder than words always.

Mayweather's fall from grace will be as shocking as Roy's. If he ever fights again.

[champ_kw]

He's been smart and his handlers been smart. Like I said, his two best wins were Corrales and Castillo. He promised to fight Marg when Marg was the most feared man in boxing, even shaking his hand and that fight never happened.

He promised to fight Pac and then AFTER the verbal agreement, started with all this steroid stuff.

He fought a smaller Hatton, an old Oscar, a way old Mosley, broken down Gatti, old Baldomir, WAY smaller JMM, I mean I can go on and on.



I try man, anyone who trolls, has ZERO life outside if the internet. I just want to talk boxing.

And it's clear you don't watch a lot of boxing....or should I say, you don't know much about Floyd. Who should he have fought other than 38-1 Genero Hernandez? Or a 25-2 Angel Manfredy? Or a 34-2 Carlos Gerena? Or 33-2 Carlos Hernandez? Or 35-1 Jesus Chavez? Or 31-1 Phillip N'dou? And don't act like Baldomir wasn't champ at 147. And stop acting like Oscar wasn't a legit 154 champ at his first fight at the weight. And Mosley just destroyed Antonio before he fought Mayweather. And Hatton was undefeated. And JMM is the same size as Pac. So in your effort to discredit Floyd's career, you've only made yourself sound like a novice. You crap on Floyd for fighting a WAY smaller JMM, but say his career won't be complete unless he fights another WAY smaller guy? So either you admit it's about skills and not about size, or you have to start downgrading Pac's resume too. That small Hatton, old Oscar, and way old Mosley are the reasons Pac is as popular as he is today. Only when their names are attached to Floyd, they become names on an unfullfilled legacy of a cherry picker.

[IronDanHamza]

lmao, you achieved what you claim. Your post is shocking, Morales, Maruqez and barrera at their best weights or very near them are his best wins. pacs resume is a mile, yes a mile ahead of mayweathers. You know nothing kid.

Morales is not included in his best wins.

It is also in his 3rd weight class a whole 2 weight classes above his best weight. One in which he came down from 135 coming off a one sided loss to fight Pacqiauo.