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Vargas would have destroyed Alvarez at the same age. Mexicans are so starved for heroes and hope they cling to anything or body like a Taco shell. Alvarez is a slow deliberate white mexican who will get KO'd soon. Not sure if he can beat Margarito.
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Why is it that everytime boxing has a bright star up and coming all of the american media and commentators find some excuse not to give him credit but when there is an american boxer on top they hang on to his nuts. Im from the UK living in the United States a life long boxing fan. All my life ive seen it. This kid Canelo Alvaerez is doing the same thing Fall the american up and coming fighters do then after that hes going to beat great names that were once good just like Floyd Mayweather jr. Whenever Floy grabs a washed up once great name beats up on them or bring a fighter who is great in the weight classes under him makes them come up jumping several weight classes and beats up on them the american media calls him great.
Now that Canelo is winning fights against lesser names they talk and talk criticizing the poor lad.Lets leave Canelo what about Ryan Rhodes a great fighter but nobody here recognizes his talents because he isnt from here. Manny Pacquiao was recognized because he made a statement. What about Amir Khan a great future fighter doesnt get recognition from the Merican Media but James Kirkland does?? I think the American media needs to treat everyone equal. Why do you think they hate Max Kellerman because he says it like it is no matter where your from.Comment
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Lmaol this just proves how boxingscene is so much in love with pacquiao. Why are they in love with pac because of the reqsons they criticize alvarez those are the same reasons the praise pac. I mean i am one of those that questions alvarez opponents but one must understand he is a 20 yr old prospect coming why throw him to the big dogs. On the other hand you have the supposedly best fighter of the planet fighting nothing but straight up washed up fighters who on top of that are weightdrained. Tell me why boxingscene doesnt make a whole article criticizing manny???
Both alvarez and pac are fighti g ****ty opponents but it makes more sense for a prospect to do that then instead the p4p king as boxingscene has him.Comment
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I still think it's funny that people on this board still blame all the hype and title shot on Canelo. yes hes not only a boxer, but he's also a promoter, and the president of the WBC.Comment
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I see what u mean, but to compare him to Berto doesn't work cause Berto did fight a legitimate RANKED welterweight(Miguel Rodriguez) for the title & has defended against fighters such as Collazo & Quintana who are exchamps & were ranked & ligimate welters & the fighter from the lower weight class(140lbs) that he defended against was Urango who was a Legitimate 2 time World champ & the current IBF champ at the time..They weren't unranked lowerweight class TOMATO CANS!!Well, that was the rumor alright.
But I thought that the writer did a great job of allaying that rumor.
It is what it is.
He is a bleached, then reddened, Andre Berto
Give the kid a break, he's still got some pimple problems to work out before he can fully dedicate himself to training. Most of that 1.8lbs was acne that sprung up overnight because he was nervous
Canelo needs time to develop, he is not ready for title fights, but we all knew that before Hatton. The time to scream about the undeserving world title was before the fight via e-mail to Sulaiman. You think Saul is undeserving, why was Hatton fighting for a title at 154?
He should dump that **** to give himself more options. I wish I knew the deal with his weight. If his management are correct, then he can make 147, but will only do so when absolutely necessary in order to preserve his career, hence his propensity for fights at 150. I believed it, now I'm not so sure.
Anyone got any inside info on that ?
Boxing is a learning curve, and the kid's got plenty of curve to go yet.
If Canelo can make 147, he should be looking at another 4-5 fights, against different styled opponents, of increasing ability. Working on his defence and movement, I want to see his skills developed further, and see him tested against bigger guys that he can't push around.
Then, depending on where he's at, look at going for someone like Senchenko or Berto.
What would happen if the current WBC JMW champ fought Berto now?
& żGive the Kid a break? żNeeds time to develop? I've been watching Canelo since 2008(against Larry Mosley & that's like 15 or 16 fights ago) & I've been keeping up watching online the fights that were only televised in Mexico threw Televisa & since then it's been the same story, he's young, he's gonna be the next Mexican star & he's still learning.. But since then Canelo has been the same EXACT fighter, he hasn't changed or improved 1 bit!!! According to the breif biography they did on HBO Canelo has been involved in boxing since he was a little kid & has been a pro for over 5 years & already has 37 fights & he claims it should be like 45 cause there are some fights he says haven't been registered(who knows where those fights took place & against who) So żHow long is it gonna take Canelo to learn something new or to improve? He either has the worst case of B.A.D.D(Boxing Attention Deficit Disorder) or should just change or hire another trainer to see if he does better...Or maybe he just needs to fight Real legitimate top 10 ranked jr middleweight fighters to see if he learns something, cause the 37 fights that are registered are against Tomato Cans, blown up fighters from lower weight categories & old dehydrated has bin's...Try to find a legitimate top 10 or 15 ranked welter or jr middleweight on Canelo's record, your not cause there ain't NONE!! & I'm not justifying Hatton fighting for the title either cause he's another 1 that has a record full of tomato cans..Neither 1 of them deserved to fight for a world title!!
Look at fighters like Pipino cuevas-started fighting at the age of 14 & 4 years at 18 & 22 fights later won a World Championship & was fighting top of the line fighters, Wilfredo Benitez-started fighting at 14 & 3 years later at 17 & 26 fights later won a world title & was also fighting top of the line fighters & Juan Diaz started at 16 & 3 years later at 19 & 21 fights later won a world title & what this article doesn't say is that Diaz won the vacant tile from a legitimate ranked lightweight & his 1st few defenses were against legitimate ranked lightweights, they weren't the elite of the division, but they were ranked & from the same division... & Wilfredo Vazquez jr NEVER had an amateur career & started learning as a pro & on his 19th fight fought & won a world title(Against the #2 contender) & has already defended against the #1 contender...Canelo has been called the next Mexican Wonder & by looking at him, he seems like the next Mexican DUD!!!Last edited by Tomasio; 03-07-2011, 02:12 PM.Comment
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Many flaws and over hyped?
The kid is 20 years old, he's saying that he's not ready for the big fights yet, what's wrong with that?
An article making fun of his looks by the main page writers? what is that? Thought of Wendy's when I saw him? classy!
It just goes to show that anyone can write an article about anything, opinions make message boards but that's just childish and not very sophisticated, is there any other 20 year olds that show promise like Canelo does?
He doesn't fit the typical Mexican fighters looks or fighting style but never underestimate the heart of a Mexican fighter, I don't care where you're from or if you like or dislike Mexican boxers, every time one is in the ring he's going to give you his all and that will never change, are we excited for him? of course we are! we're exited for all of our fighters, we're stoked for Rios too! what's wrong with him?
Canelo hasn't even claimed that hes' ready for top competition, he said he needs a couple more fights until he's ready, the reason people would want to discredit his demeanor and personality is beyond me
The kid is humble, hard worker, generous and loves boxing
Is he over hyped? maybe, but we'll see what he amounts to, he's only 20 years old!!!Comment
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They hate him because he's popular and has charisma thats it. People have this diluted idea that the most talented fighter is always the most popular fighter but my question is when has that always been the case? In fact usually the most popular fighters are never the most talented ones. And I would never consider a fighter with no amauture experience who also happens to be 20 years old to be the most talented.
But let me make one thing perfectly clear! For a 20 yearold canelo has an awesome resume for a boxer his age.-Comment
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His power certainly didn't look weak to me , but his defense will have to improve as he moves up , heck the kids only 20 yrs oldComment
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