Haye has overrated power

[nomadman]

Yeah and when he flurries he slaps (Macca)

He occasionally cuffs his punches because he gets too close and in his excitement doesn't think to step back and get his distance, but it's not like he's the second coming of Joe Calzaghe. It's still a flaw, but a technical rather than a physical one.

[nomadman]

He actually hasn't even probably thrown his
hardest punch yet at HW, the Valuev punch was a left hand.

He moves too much to get any real leverage on his shots, if he really sits on his punches.. he will destroy. His KO ratio isn't too bad though, is it?

Haye is too fast for Wlad, he will land some fast shots, move in and out.. then KO him.

I'd say Haye's already shown us the hardest punch he's capable of throwing at HW. After all it's not like he holds back when he sees an opening is it? The man fairly launches himself into every power punch, for good or ill (good thus far).

If anyone's holding back from his true power it's Wlad. He, of course, does it for a reason. Getting the max out of your punch if it leaves you exposed and off balance is not a price he's willing to pay, not when he can hurt fighters plenty good with jabs, straight rights and short hooks without sacrificing his position, his balance, his defence or his composure.

[nomadman]

This is true, haye has a unique style, he's very conservative with his shots, which makes him hard to counter or figure out

Wlad needs to force the fight and try to get haye to exchange, if wlad allows haye time to breathe it will be a risk all the time haye is in there

He will be. For all Wlad's cautiousness, he's always pressing forward with the jab, moving his hands, slowly and subtly pushing his opponents back to the ropes where they become sitting ducks. Haye can try to emulate the Valuev fight, but that would be a colossal mistake. Valuev's footwork simply wasn't good enough to corner Haye and on the few occasions he did so his hands were just too slow to make it count. If he tries that stuff with Wlad he's gonna be finding himself in a whole heap of trouble. Haye's possible winning tactics in this fight are few and simple. Jump on Wlad from the first bell and don't stop till he's on the floor. None of this gameplan nonsense. Wlad already holds all the aces in that department.

[nomadman]

look at the punch when he knocked down John Ruiz whilst going backwards.
Look at when he wobbled Valuev.

They are not weak chinny boxers

Look at the punch when Golota knocked down John Ruiz whilst going backwards. An old Andrew Golota.

Then look at the Tua fight. Just for a laugh.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I'd say Haye's already shown us the hardest punch he's capable of throwing at HW. After all it's not like he holds back when he sees an opening is it? The man fairly launches himself into every power punch, for good or ill (good thus far).

If anyone's holding back from his true power it's Wlad. He, of course, does it for a reason. Getting the max out of your punch if it leaves you exposed and off balance is not a price he's willing to pay, not when he can hurt fighters plenty good with jabs, straight rights and short hooks without sacrificing his position, his balance, his defence or his composure.

Wlad does that because he knows he can't take a good punch. Thats why it takes him 10+ rounds to get nobodys out of there.

[nomadman]

Wlad does that because he knows he can't take a good punch. Thats why it takes him 10+ rounds to get nobodys out of there.

Regardless, he's still holding back and even you acknowledge that.

[Arthur Daley]

Maybe he gets overrated by some people but i dont feel his power does,only two guys have lasted the distance against him,one of them because he came too survive and the other because he outweighed haye by 7 stone,his power is for real

Yes but he has only fought 26 fights with almost all of them against garbage. The fact that his biggest wins to date are against Valuev, Maccarinelli and Mormeck tells you everything you need to know about haye.

[lparm]

Look at the punch when Golota knocked down John Ruiz whilst going backwards. An old Andrew Golota.

Then look at the Tua fight. Just for a laugh.

This is all true. Any fool that says John Ruiz had an awesome chin needs to gtfo and start watching female soccer. Madness, complete madness.

[Joeyzagz]

He will be. For all Wlad's cautiousness, he's always pressing forward with the jab, moving his hands, slowly and subtly pushing his opponents back to the ropes where they become sitting ducks. Haye can try to emulate the Valuev fight, but that would be a colossal mistake. Valuev's footwork simply wasn't good enough to corner Haye and on the few occasions he did so his hands were just too slow to make it count. If he tries that stuff with Wlad he's gonna be finding himself in a whole heap of trouble. Haye's possible winning tactics in this fight are few and simple. Jump on Wlad from the first bell and don't stop till he's on the floor. None of this gameplan nonsense. Wlad already holds all the aces in that department.

When has Haye ever blindly jumped someone from the first bell? Thats not his style at all. He keeps distance and spies for an opening.

Haye's style is actually better, because the guys who just Frazier their way in always eat Wlad jabs.

If Haye catches Wlad with a quick-single shot, THEN Haye trades, but not before. Watch his fights.

[Gojira]

Overrated? Haye is one of the sports P4P hardest punchers.

23 KO's in 26 fights says it all.