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  • BrooklynBomber
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    #51
    I dont think Haye is a good combination puncher, he does throw flurries when his opponent is on the ropes and he does not know how to move and punch(very important quality while throwing a proper combo) but he is not a fighter who fight in the center of the ring to set up a good offensive combination. Wlad in that regard is much better as he knows how to move while throwing and usually moves side to side when throwing combinations.

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    • Reggie Miller
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      #52
      He actually hasn't even probably thrown his hardest punch yet at HW, the Valuev punch was a left hand.

      He moves too much to get any real leverage on his shots, if he really sits on his punches.. he will destroy. His KO ratio isn't too bad though, is it?

      Haye is too fast for Wlad, he will land some fast shots, move in and out.. then KO him.

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      • Joeyzagz
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        #53
        Why do people think Haye will be standing in front of Wlad? Haye didnt even want to get in range of Audley Harrison! and Audley threw no punches.

        Haye will be 10 feet away from Wlad at all times. Hes only gonna lunge in if he sees a good counter or if its the very end of a round. He doesnt give a fck about points and he is not going to try to walk through jabs like Sam Peter.

        He's lookin for the perfect shot, not gonna trade with Wlad.

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        • Mikhnienko
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          #54
          Originally posted by JoeyZagz
          Exactly. Ive seen Valuev get hit with monstrous punches, and his legs dont even move. Haye was the first to really wobble him like that. He lands that on Wlad its curtains.
          Barrett wobbled him and *****ko who is regarded as being feather fisted had him out on his feet.

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            #55
            Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
            I dont think Haye is a good combination puncher, he does throw flurries when his opponent is on the ropes and he does not know how to move and punch(very important quality while throwing a proper combo) but he is not a fighter who fight in the center of the ring to set up a good offensive combination. Wlad in that regard is much better as he knows how to move while throwing and usually moves side to side when throwing combinations.
            Yeah and when he flurries he slaps (Macca)

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            • Earl-Hickey
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              #56
              Originally posted by JoeyZagz
              Why do people think Haye will be standing in front of Wlad? Haye didnt even want to get in range of Audley Harrison! and Audley threw no punches.

              Haye will be 10 feet away from Wlad at all times. Hes only gonna lunge in if he sees a good counter or if its the very end of a round. He doesnt give a fck about points and he is not going to try to walk through jabs like Sam Peter.

              He's lookin for the perfect shot, not gonna trade with Wlad.
              This is true, haye has a unique style, he's very conservative with his shots, which makes him hard to counter or figure out

              Wlad needs to force the fight and try to get haye to exchange, if wlad allows haye time to breathe it will be a risk all the time haye is in there

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              • steeluv
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                #57
                Originally posted by lparm
                Seriously this guy has stopped guys that have weak chins and previous KO defeats on their records. If he KO's Wlad (and that's a huge IF) he's doing what others have already done. Unless Haye KO's Vitali or another elite strong chinned hw people need to stop riding the hype about his power.
                look at the punch when he knocked down John Ruiz whilst going backwards.
                Look at when he wobbled Valuev.

                They are not weak chinny boxers

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                • Mersey
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dave Rado
                  Haye has very good power, but it is not devastating. An old Ruiz wouldn't have lasted 8 rounds if it had been devastating. Valuev wouldn't have recovered so quickly if it had been devastating. (And Valuev was out on his feet against *****ko, who is not a big puncher, so the myth that Valuev has an invincible chin is just that, a myth).

                  You definitely overrate his power.
                  I'm not overrating it at all.

                  Do you think Wlad would KO Ruiz before Haye did? Wlad hit's harder than Haye.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    Haye has very good power, but it is not devastating. An old Ruiz wouldn't have lasted 8 rounds if it had been devastating. Valuev wouldn't have recovered so quickly if it had been devastating. (And Valuev was out on his feet against *****ko, who is not a big puncher, so the myth that Valuev has an invincible chin is just that, a myth).

                    You definitely overrate his power.
                    he was'nt hurt at all vs *****ko, dude was out of steam

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                    • amonb
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by lparm
                      Seriously this guy has stopped guys that have weak chins and previous KO defeats on their records. If he KO's Wlad (and that's a huge IF) he's doing what others have already done. Unless Haye KO's Vitali or another elite strong chinned hw people need to stop riding the hype about his power.
                      So how is his power overrated??? You make no sense!!!

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