When Vitali Beats Solis........

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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #21
    Originally posted by Pirao
    It will depend on what sort of career Solis goes on to have after the fight.
    I was going to say something along these lines. I think it hinges on Solis's performance in his fight against Klitschko. Will Odlanier look worthy, or will he look like just another victim? No matter how you cut it, though, Solis isn't a big name, and Vitali probably won't get heavy credit for beating him.

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      #22
      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
      I was going to say something along these lines. I think it hinges on Solis's performance in his fight against Klitschko. Will Odlanier look worthy, or will he look like just another victim? No matter how you cut it, though, Solis isn't a big name, and Vitali probably won't get heavy credit for beating him.
      I've little doubt that Solis will get pummeled (barring an injury or something). However if in the future he goes on to win a couple of belts, the win will look good in retrospect.

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        #23
        Originally posted by RA-Box
        I can agree with you there.

        I'm a Solis fan and am one of the few people who thinks the weight has helped him in his fights. I've never seen any issues with stamina, and have seen massive strength gains as his fights have accumulated until the Austin one. That is the only fight in my opinion where he faught the way he looks.

        The negative comments are justified for that fight. I chalk it up to lack of motivation for an opponent who was obviously not a threat (Jab KD, comon).

        The recent reports of Solis' training are convincing me that he's brining his A game, which to me represents all the qualities every recent Vitali opponent has lacked (except for chin as it hasn't been tested yet).
        I hate seeing a fat heavyweight. It's one of the reasons why I respect the Klitschko brothers' commitment to their sport: they stay in peak condition. That said, I grudgingly agree with what you say about Solis's weight helping him...to a degree. Odlanier's stamina didn't seem to suffer too badly in his earlier fights. But the fight against Austin proved that carrying excessive weight would eventually catch up to Solis.

        If the rumors are true that Solis is trimming down, then it's an acknowledgement that being overweight was the wrong strategy all along. My concern is that the body isn't a machine. It takes time to adjust to changes. Odlanier might not have had a great chance against Vitali to begin with, but being a professional about his career would've given him much better odds.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          He did not beat him handily and you could have had the fight very close at the time of the DQ, its a decent win for VK though because Solis does have some skill and ability. I hope he comes in shape so ppl have less to criticize about this win.
          I think there's alot of exaggeration here as to what happened in that fight. Solis had Austin out on his feet several times & remember it was Austin who got disqualified because he refused to let Solis knock him out. Solis did gas & his stamina was pathetic & that's where all the criticism stems from>>> asian cutie.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Pirao
            It will depend on what sort of career Solis goes on to have after the fight.
            & you have a career after you fight Vitali..... how???

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              #26
              Originally posted by Pirao
              I've little doubt that Solis will get pummeled (barring an injury or something). However if in the future he goes on to win a couple of belts, the win will look good in retrospect.
              Vitali wins. Whether he destroys Solis or simply wins by UD...I dunno. However, Solis does stand a good chance of winning a couple of (meaningless) belts down the line. The victory would then someday look good on Vitali's record.

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                #27
                Originally posted by jimmy1569
                & you have a career after you fight Vitali..... how???
                You think that Solis will be retired by Vitali? Klitschko will win, but I doubt he'll end Odlanier's career.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                  You think that Solis will be retired by Vitali? Klitschko will win, but I doubt he'll end Odlanier's career.
                  Not in the literal sense..although Vitali has been known to do that as well. No fighter I CAN think of HAS EVER been the same or close to the same fighter he was after going rds with Vitali...these prolonged beatdowns he delivers are very hard to recover from...just ask Lennox.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jimmy1569
                    Not in the literal sense..although Vitali has been known to do that as well. No fighter I CAN think of HAS EVER been the same or close to the same fighter he was after going rds with Vitali...these prolonged beatdowns he delivers are very hard to recover from...just ask Lennox.
                    No doubt. Taking bombs from that monster can change the course of a fighter's career. I just think Solis is talented enough to avoid a prolonged beating, a la Briggs, and young enough to recover from the punishment he does sustain.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                      I hate seeing a fat heavyweight. It's one of the reasons why I respect the Klitschko brothers' commitment to their sport: they stay in peak condition. That said, I grudgingly agree with what you say about Solis's weight helping him...to a degree. Odlanier's stamina didn't seem to suffer too badly in his earlier fights. But the fight against Austin proved that carrying excessive weight would eventually catch up to Solis.

                      If the rumors are true that Solis is trimming down, then it's an acknowledgement that being overweight was the wrong strategy all along. My concern is that the body isn't a machine. It takes time to adjust to changes. Odlanier might not have had a great chance against Vitali to begin with, but being a professional about his career would've given him much better odds.
                      Hey man, that's all fair and logical. Let's see how he shows up. He's still relatively young. All people are different. Look at Ricky Hatton.

                      Honestly, I don't think we'll see a massive drop into the 240's or even 250's like some people expect. I figure a slight drop due to a change in training focus is most likely what we'll see.

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