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I'm worried about Vitali vs. Solis, but not about Wlad vs. Haye

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  • #51
    Originally posted by IIG View Post
    Yeah, I definitely think Solis would decision Haye. Their amateur fight does confirm what seems to be unquestionable to me, that Solis has superior boxing skills. Haye is heavy handed, but I believe Solis has a better chin, and could win a clear decision over 12.

    David Haye is not one of the better Heavyweights in my opinion, and I think he must agree, because he only seeks to fight old, washed up guys that have no chance against him. The funny thing is, I think Valuev probably deserved the decision in their fight. I'd favor Chambers, Povetkin, and maybe Chagaev and Boystov over Haye as well.
    Well, you clearly have a weak opinion of Haye. lol

    Odlanier Solis is, arguably, the most skilled heavyweight in the game today. Although skill is a prime component of success, it isn't the only ingredient. Solis is a relatively small heavyweight with questionable stamina (as evidenced by the Ray Austin fight). A decision victory over David Haye (who, I think you'll agree, is better than Austin) would necessitate good stamina. I think the outcome between Solis and Haye is highly debatable at this point.

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    • #52
      Klitschkos cant afford to lose another fight.

      Wlad already has 3 KO losses. Thats more than all the ATG's: Dempsey(1), Louis(2), Bowe(0), Holyfield(2), Ali(1), Jeffries(1), Holmes(1), Lewis(2), Foreman(1), Marciano(0). 1 more KO loss and Wlad is in serious trouble.

      Although Vitali would be forgiven for losing at such an old age, his percieved invincibility is all he has left to make up for his lackluster resume'. All he has to do is get caught with one shot and that invincibility disintigrates in an instant.

      I hope Vitali beats Solis.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
        Well, you clearly have a weak opinion of Haye. lol

        Odlanier Solis is, arguably, the most skilled heavyweight in the game today. Although skill is a prime component of success, it isn't the only ingredient. Solis is a relatively small heavyweight with questionable stamina (as evidenced by the Ray Austin fight). A decision victory over David Haye (who, I think you'll agree, is better than Austin) would necessitate good stamina. I think the outcome between Solis and Haye is highly debatable at this point.
        Haye has had stamina problems as well, he gassed against age 40 Carl Thompson (a much smaller man than Austin) and got stopped.

        Solis has never lost a fight in that way.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
          Well, you clearly have a weak opinion of Haye. lol

          Odlanier Solis is, arguably, the most skilled heavyweight in the game today. Although skill is a prime component of success, it isn't the only ingredient. Solis is a relatively small heavyweight with questionable stamina (as evidenced by the Ray Austin fight). A decision victory over David Haye (who, I think you'll agree, is better than Austin) would necessitate good stamina. I think the outcome between Solis and Haye is highly debatable at this point.
          His stamina issue I think has everything to do with his weight issue. There's no way he's coming into the Vitali fight at 260+. If he does, he deserves to fall hard. I think and hope he's just bored with his level of competition, and will put more into training when fighting top level fighters.

          Now, I have nothing against Haye overall as a fighter. He was a very good Cruiserweight, but at Heavyweight I have been less than impressed. Have you?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Freedom! View Post
            Haye has had stamina problems as well, he gassed against age 40 Carl Thompson (a much smaller man than Austin) and got stopped.

            Solis has never lost a fight in that way.
            Wow still using the Thompson fight as an arguement LOL your a joke of a troll. You thought Larry Olubamiwo was a good HW prospect you are clearly a clown.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by IIG View Post
              His stamina issue I think has everything to do with his weight issue. There's no way he's coming into the Vitali fight at 260+. If he does, he deserves to fall hard. I think and hope he's just bored with his level of competition, and will put more into training when fighting top level fighters.

              Now, I have nothing against Haye overall as a fighter. He was a very good Cruiserweight, but at Heavyweight I have been less than impressed. Have you?
              No, Haye doesn't impress me in an absolute sense. It says something that many people consider him #3 behind the Klitschkos, though. At this writing, it looks like the fight with him and Wlad might be on again.

              I, too, get the impression that Solis is bored. That explains his lack of professionalism, but it's not an excuse for it. He's got to be in top form to even survive versus Vitali, let alone look good.

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              • #57
                Man I been following this division a long time.....Solis doesn't beat Haye, I could care less what happened in their fight which may as well be 20 years ago. Solis doesn't beat Haye, nor Vitali, nor Wladimir, man just watch Solis's fights. Seriously that tells you everything. This guy is lazy, slow, and way overweight......

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Freedom! View Post
                  No, it's because an in-shape Solis is a better fighter than the loud-mouthed Haye.

                  Let's not forget, Solis stopped Haye in the amateurs.

                  You're just an idiotic, delusional Haye nuthugger.
                  very rich coming from you. have you not died yet?

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                  • #59
                    If he's that dangerous Vitali could play safe against Solis and control him for 12 rounds, much like Lewis did against the Tuaman.

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                    • #60
                      Well apparently Solis is around 250lb, he is still overweight he needs to drop another 30lb imo, he will not be in great shape.

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