Comments Thread For: Donaire-Moreno: Nonito Would Love a Bay Area Battle

[ny123]

I havent seen Moreno yet how do guys think he does against Montiel and the fighters in the Showtime tourney?

[IronDanHamza]

I havent seen Moreno yet how do guys think he does against Montiel and the fighters in the Showtime tourney?

I personally think Moreno UD's everyone at Bantam apart from Donaire.

I think Donaire will UD Moreno. Close by clear.

I would LOVE Moreno to win though and I am rooting for him all the way.

[studentofthegam]

Evidently you only watched the start of the video and made an horrific assumption.

In this very fight it takes a brain cell to see he uses his jab very well.

Moreno has an excellent jab. I would go as far as saying one of the best jabs in boxing today.

It is ok against lesser guys than Donaire. He cant use that pushy jab against Agbeko or Mares either. He's not a bad fighter but it seems like when a boxer is on top fans make monsters out guys that are just aight so you can say he ducked him.

The only time I can recall him getting on his bike was in the Cermeno rematch, even then it was a clear victory.

The only fight he's had that could be seen as a SD is the first Cermeno fight. That was a close fight. It came down to how you scored two rounds IMO.

The only fights I saw were two youtube fights. Im not saying he has o run from everybody but its his best bet with Nonito. I even think Perez might let him get away with that jab for a while. The one constant I did see was that Sydorenko and Cermeno didnt apply enough pressure. If you dance with him he wins. Donaire will cut the ring and throw hands and he is there to counter. I see here he did tko Vargas which aint a bad win. Just not ready for the big dogs.

[Shadows]

It is ok against lesser guys than Donaire. He cant use that pushy jab against Agbeko or Mares either. He's not a bad fighter but it seems like when a boxer is on top fans make monsters out guys that are just aight so you can say he ducked him.

The only fights I saw were two youtube fights. Im not saying he has o run from everybody but its his best bet with Nonito. I even think Perez might let him get away with that jab for a while. The one constant I did see was that Sydorenko and Cermeno didnt apply enough pressure. If you dance with him he wins. Donaire will cut the ring and throw hands and he is there to counter. I see here he did tko Vargas which aint a bad win. Just not ready for the big dogs.

Not ready for the big dogs? I disagree, the time is now.

Moreno is absolutely ready for everyone at 118, especially considering I don't think he has much longer an bantamweight. He would absolutely by competitive with everyone at the top, Donaire the least though.

Cermeno pressured in the second fight, but didn't in the first. If anything, he fought smarter in the first fight, as Moreno isn't as comfortable fighting aggressively and coming forward. Sidorenko applied pressure, but Moreno simply outboxed him. The second fight was more competitive, but still a clear loss for Sidorenko.

[studentofthegam]

Not ready for the big dogs? I disagree, the time is now.

Moreno is absolutely ready for everyone at 118, especially considering I don't think he has much longer an bantamweight. He would absolutely by competitive with everyone at the top, Donaire the least though.

Cermeno pressured in the second fight, but didn't in the first. If anything, he fought smarter in the first fight, as Moreno isn't as comfortable fighting aggressively and coming forward. Sidorenko applied pressure, but Moreno simply outboxed him. The second fight was more competitive, but still a clear loss for Sidorenko.

this is not pressure. This is walking forward and waiting and thats why he lost.



To me pressure includes some punch output. He is a hell of a ring general if his opponent allows it. These guys at the top of the bantams wont be having that. Can you really imagine Agbeko just standing there like that especially in the championship rounds?Hell no

[S.G.]

Well done Donaire for looking at the high risk fights. I was seriously worried he'd just hop up a division in chase of the $$$.

[IronDanHamza]

It is ok against lesser guys than Donaire. He cant use that pushy jab against Agbeko or Mares either. He's not a bad fighter but it seems like when a boxer is on top fans make monsters out guys that are just aight so you can say he ducked him.

The only fights I saw were two youtube fights. Im not saying he has o run from everybody but its his best bet with Nonito. I even think Perez might let him get away with that jab for a while. The one constant I did see was that Sydorenko and Cermeno didnt apply enough pressure. If you dance with him he wins. Donaire will cut the ring and throw hands and he is there to counter. I see here he did tko Vargas which aint a bad win. Just not ready for the big dogs.

MY WORD.

He DOESN'T push his jab.

You clearly havn't seen those fights the way your describing them. We have all seen those fights are were following the Bantamweight division before last saturday. PLEASE stop trying to fool us, its not going to work.

[Shadows]

this is not pressure. This is walking forward and waiting and thats why he lost.



To me pressure includes some punch output. He is a hell of a ring general if his opponent allows it. These guys at the top of the bantams wont be having that. Can you really imagine Agbeko just standing there like that especially in the championship rounds?Hell no

I see Cermeno pressuring. He's just not rushing in carelessly.

That's just two rounds of a twelve round fight. Cermeno pressured for pretty much the entire fight.

[crold1]

this is not pressure. This is walking forward and waiting and thats why he lost.



To me pressure includes some punch output. He is a hell of a ring general if his opponent allows it. These guys at the top of the bantams wont be having that. Can you really imagine Agbeko just standing there like that especially in the championship rounds?Hell no

Even when Cermeno is punching, he can't lay a glove on him. None of the better guys Moreno has seen can. He's got that sick ability to make guys meet by centimeters, over and over.

BUT...

...doing it against someone with the speed and precision of Donaire is the test between an excellent defender (which you have to be to make world quality guys like Cermeno and Sidorneko miss) and an elite defender (which you have to be to do the same thing to a Donaire level talent).

A LOT of people weren't absolutely sold on Whitaker until McGirt and Chavez in 1993, even with Nelson behind him. Whether Moreno is more than just a poor man's Pea is something I hope to see soon.

I see Cermeno pressuring. He's just not rushing in carelessly.

That's just two rounds of a twelve round fight. Cermeno pressured for pretty much the entire fight.

It gets tiring hitting all that air. Cermeno is a tough customer, former Olympian, wins over Mijares...and, even with a bogus split the first time and the WBA bending over backwards, he still couldn't beat Moreno.

[studentofthegam]

MY WORD.

He DOESN'T push his jab.

You clearly havn't seen those fights the way your describing them. We have all seen those fights are were following the Bantamweight division before last saturday. PLEASE stop trying to fool us, its not going to work.

No. I started with Too sharp and Marquez with the small guys. As far as that being one of the best jabs in the game.........Well ok buddy. I will love seeing your face when he brings that "crushing jab" to the Donaire fight. Im looking at it and I think you just feel some kinda way about having to chek yourself because that isnt even better than Pac's jab. It doesnt keep guys back. He does keep distance well with his feet.