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  • V.WEBB
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    #101
    Originally posted by Haglerwins
    Agreed. Floyd won't jump unless he's 100% sure first.

    If Pac were to stop Shane or not struggle at all, I don't think they fight.
    How did Shane look in his fight prior to fighting Floyd?

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      #102
      Originally posted by Haglerwins
      No countering ala Hopkins doesn't win you a bout with an energetic man, but Floyd can do that and move constantly, which could **** Pac up and keep him in constant reset. Keep in mind, you need a stationary target for combos.
      I don't agree with that.

      Pacquiao's shown he can get combinations off on guys on the move whether it be moving back or side to side being he moves with his combinations as well and can circle you before you get a chance to try to counter him. Pacquiao isn't your conventional combination puncher who NEEDS to be stationary to get his shots off.

      Also, if Floyd's constantly on the move, it's going to be a lot harder to be consistently countering Pacquiao being Floyd himself has to set up to get his shots off best, which is when his opponent is in front of him (ala Hatton, Mosley, JMM, De La Hoya).

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        #103
        Originally posted by pbftxrs316
        you see this is why people like you are easy to argue against---if floyd catches manny with punches he don't see coming, he will not only hurt manny, but will also stop him---saying manny hits harder than floyd is one thing, saying floyd can't hurt manny is just plain rediculous kiddo--manny is not hard to hit at all and floyd has the very best timing with his punches in boxing, arguably ever---jmm stunned manny by catching him with a shot he didn't see coming and floyd is at least 10x the skilled fighter as jmm is---manny gets hit a lot--his face shows it at the end of his fights---floyd's face is almost always in the same condition as before he fights---

        manny is open to body shots and floyd goes to the body very well---he has too many tools for manny--
        my point is that, manny has been hit by bigger guys who hits harder than floyd and he didnt go down.. so what makes u think floyd will be able to stop manny? manny can take 3-4 punches from floyd but can floyd take 1 good shot from manny? ask yourself that. jmm stunned manny with some shots manny didnt see but did it drop manny? how many times did manny drop jmm? how many times did floyd drop jmm? of course manny's face is gonna show more signs of damage, u have 1 guy that wants to fight and 1 guy that likes to defend, thats a no brainer for even bringing that part up. look at all floyd's opponents after each fight and look at pac's opponents after each fight.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Haglerwins
          Agreed. Floyd won't jump unless he's 100% sure first.

          If Pac were to stop Shane or not struggle at all, I don't think they fight.
          bingo!!!!!!

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            #105
            Originally posted by RL_GMA
            I don't agree with that.

            Pacquiao's shown he can get combinations off on guys on the move whether it be moving back or side to side being he moves with his combinations as well and can circle you before you get a chance to try to counter him. Pacquiao isn't your conventional combination puncher who NEEDS to be stationary to get his shots off.

            Also, if Floyd's constantly on the move, it's going to be a lot harder to be consistently countering Pacquiao being Floyd himself has to set up to get his shots off best, which is when his opponent is in front of him (ala Hatton, Mosley, JMM, De La Hoya).
            Floyd is going to fight Manny on the inside. Watch.

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              #106
              Originally posted by VAW-JR
              How did Shane look in his fight prior to fighting Floyd?
              Doesn't matter in that case, Marg's style was tailor made for Mosley, since he grew up dealing with Mexican pressure fighters.

              Floyd will size Pac up against Shane though. If Pac makes it look easy, ala takes Shane's sht consistently and doesn't really get stunned, AND wins dominantly.. forget a super fight.

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                #107
                Originally posted by HOMELESS BUM
                Well Margarito should never lose then because he throws 1000 punches a fight..

                Fact is win or lose Floyd will cut down pacs work rate and make him miss far more then the likes of Margarito and co did..
                No, he won't. Manny is far more accurate than Floyd, he'll outland and outwork him easily.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Haglerwins
                  Doesn't matter in that case, Marg's style was tailor made for Mosley, since he grew up dealing with Mexican pressure fighters.

                  Floyd will size Pac up against Shane though. If Pac makes it look easy, ala takes Shane's sht consistently and doesn't really get stunned, AND wins dominantly.. forget a super fight.
                  Because Tony was tailor made for him, it doesn't matter? LOL. And why should Floyd be afraid to fight Manny when he dominates Shane considering that he (Floyd) just dominated the same fighter a whole year earlier? Help me with that.
                  Last edited by V.WEBB; 02-25-2011, 03:28 PM.

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                  • RL_GMA
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by VAW-JR
                    Floyd is going to fight Manny on the inside. Watch.
                    I truthfully wouldn't be surprised. Floyd can be a lil dirty on the inside (pause) so it can play a key role in the fight (being the ref doesn't warn Floyd numerous times).

                    Something tells me though that Floyd's gonna get hit in the fight maybe a little more than he's used to, which in turns doesn't seem likely he'd stay on the inside.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by devildg


                      He says he cant see how someone who only throws 500 punches beats someone who throws 1000 punches (and who is also one of the most accurate punchers in the sport) so unless Floyd severely hurts Pac, he has no chance in hell to win a decision, Floyd needs a KO to win.
                      this is one of the dumbest statements i have ever heard if anything the fights that manny has that has gone the distance he did not look as good as he's made out to be the fights where he stops his opppnonets are the fights that he looked great in

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