Comments Thread For: Klitschko in Play? Warren Grabs David Haye's May 21 Date

[lfc19titles]

Haye is going to knock wlad out within 6 rounds, Quote me any nuthuggers. His power and speed will crucify wlad. IMO the fight will be a total miss match, you will see 100s of wlad was a bum threads on here after Haye is done with him

[GRANDSLAM]

I'll believe it when I see it. It's the fight I want to see most, more than Mayweather vs Pacquiao. But I still don't get why Wlad is fighting Chisora.

Haye by stoppage

[Steelhammer2011]

If the fight happens, that glass chinned pussy Haye will get brutally KTFO by the first big punch Wlad lands.

Wlad-Haye = Wlad KO2 Austin

Easy KO win for Wlad.

[Steelhammer2011]

Wlad's jab alone is more powerful than any punch Haye has taken in his entire career.

I wouldn't be surprised if glass jaw Haye gets KTFO by a jab from Wlad.

[ChopperRead]

Haye is going to knock wlad out within 6 rounds, Quote me any nuthuggers. His power and speed will crucify wlad. IMO the fight will be a total miss match, you will see 100s of wlad was a bum threads on here after Haye is done with him

Like Haye destroyed Valuev, I guess ... oh wait, he didn't.

You'll be long gone when Wlad KOs your hero.

[Dave Rado]

Just like the chance of him getting knocked out by Puritty or Sanders was one in a million, right?

You're being truly ridiculous. That's like saying that if Pac got knocked out now by a journeyman with 14 pro fights, that would be comparable with Pac getting knocked out ten years ago by Torrecampo and Singsurat.

Wlad has improved as much as Pac has since those defeats, and for him to lose to Chisora now would be the biggest upset in the entire history of Heavyweight boxing. (And in addition, while Chisora is arguably comparable with Purrity, he is not comparable with Sanders, who on his day was a world class and explosive fighter.)

And in any case, as I've already pointed out, if Wlad did lose, by some miracle, Haye could just fight Chisora, which would be just as big a fight in the UK as Haye-Wlad would be, if Chisora was a 2-belt world title holder by then. Or he could fight Vitali, if he preferred. And the contract with Wlad could stipulate that he would have those options in that scenario.

As for the rest of your post, the timing was determined by the TV dates, and by when Wlad was going to be able to restart training, and it is just a stay busy fight, which he feels he needs for the reasons I've already gone into in my previous posts. But it does not significantly increase his chances of being injured - he's just as likely to be injured in training as he is by fighting Chisora; and it is absolutely none of Haye's business provided Wlad turns up for their fight in July. To give it as an excuse for Haye pulling out is just ridiculous.

[Dave Rado]

What makes you think that this fight with Haye is "the biggest fight in his career" . You are ignotant of the fact that Klitschko has had over 50 fights, and at least half of them were as big or bigger than this piddly little "possible" encounter with almost helpless David Haye.

Are you just pretending to be ****** or is it really your condition?

[Dave Rado]

Put your money where your mouth is if you're that crazy about your guy and believe that Haye is helpless, if Wlad ever accepts this fight. 200K on Haye, what do you say?

I'll take that bet - I like easy bets. Are we on?

Haye isn't helpless, and it may well be a very good fight, and I agree that it would be Wlad's biggest fight - but the ability to negate a world class jab is the #1 requirement for anyone to be able beat Wlad, and Haye doesn't have that ability. The Ruiz fight proved that beyond any doubt, and the Valuev fight didn't exactly inspire confidence on that score either. The only way Haye was able to avoid Valuev's painfully slow jab was by running and by having the lowest punch output in the history of modern Heavyweight title fights; and Ruiz landed his jab almost at will.

[slindee3]

You're being truly ridiculous. That's like saying that if Pac got knocked out now by a journeyman with 14 pro fights, that would be comparable with Pac getting knocked out ten years ago by Torrecampo and Singsurat.

Wlad has improved as much as Pac has since those defeats, and for him to lose to Chisora now would be the biggest upset in the entire history of Heavyweight boxing. (And while Chisora is arguable comparable with Purrity, he is not comparable with Sanders, who on his day was a world class fighter.)

And in any case, as I've already pointed out, if Wlad did lose by some miracle, Haye could just fight Chisora, which would be just as big a fight in the UK as Haye-Wlad would be, if Chisora was a 2-belt world title holder by then.

As for the rest of your post, the timing was determined by the TV dates, and by when Wlad was going to be able to restart training, and it is just a stay busy fight, which he feels he needs for the reasons I've already gone into in my previous posts. But it does not significantly increase his chances of being injured - he's just as likely to be injured in training as he by fighting Chisora; and it is absolutely none of Haye's business provided Wlad turns up for their fight in July. To give it as an excuse for Haye pulling out is just ridiculous.

Obviously you're from somewhere in the UK and you're the one who is being truly ridiculous. How in the world can you say that Klitscho losing to Chisora will be the biggest upset in heavyweight history? Are you comparing Klit to Ali and a prime Tyson? Wlad losing to Chisora will be a bigger upset than Tyson losing to Douglas, Liston losing to Ali, and Foreman losing to Ali?

The Klitsckos may be the best HW's now, but they would only be considered as decent fighters in the Tyson, Holifield, Bowe era.

And nobody wants to see Haye fight Chisora, maybe in the UK. But the world wants a Haye/Klitscho fight.

[Dave Rado]

Obviously you're from somewhere in the UK and you're the one who is being truly ridiculous. How in the world can you say that Klitscho losing to Chisora will be the biggest upset in heavyweight history? Are you comparing Klit to Ali and a prime Tyson? Wlad losing to Chisora will be a bigger upset than Tyson losing to Douglas, Liston losing to Ali, and Foreman losing to Ali?

Chisora is a journeyman with 14 fights, in which he has never looked better than a good domestic level fighter. Douglas and Ali were already obviously world class fighters even at the time they won those fights. So yes, it would be an even bigger upset than those three fights, at least outside the UK.

And in terms of dominance of the division over the past five years, Wlad is as dominant as anyone has ever been, barely losing a round in his last ten fights, most of which were against Ring top 10 fighters. I'm not comparing him with them in terms of ATG status: but in terms of dominance, he is certainly more than comparable with them. And all the opponents Wlad has beaten in the last 5 years were better than Chisora. (ATG status can't be meaningfully evaluated in any case until after a fighter has retired - except in the case of real exceptions like Hopkins or Holyfield, because of their age, and their accomplishments over a very long period).

And nobody wants to see Haye fight Chisora, maybe in the UK. But the world wants a Haye/Klitscho fight.

You obviously didn't read my post properly. I said that IF Chisora beat Wlad and became a two belt champion, then and only then, Haye-Chisora would be a huge fight. And that Haye could also choose fight Vitali in July in those circumstances, if he preferred.

And you didn't respond to my invitation to bet.