Fantasy merge Winky Wright with Tito's power undefeated from 147-160.

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  • Steak
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    #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    You think his chins that bad? I think thats kind of a myth IMO.

    As I said other than 2 occasions the only time he was stopped was due to stamina issues. A hearns with never ending stamina would have beaten Sugar Ray on that night.

    Your right though he pretty much struggles to lose at 154 already. But with stamina? Hard to see him lose at 154 IMO.
    its certainly still a liability. Despite him only being stopped thrice in his prime, he was down agaisnt Leonard, Hagler, Barkley at 160, Barkley at 175, and Kinchen. as well as being rocked multiple times against Ray Leonard at 168lbs and Juan Domingo Roldan.

    I dont think he had the worst chin ever, but if you had to pick a weak spot for him, that would have been it.
    his stamina was much better at 154 and up than it was at WW.

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      #42
      Originally posted by blackirish137
      well, i dont see a winky-trinidad merge beating a 154lb hearns, too much range and power to force his way in. Hagler could walk into winkydad and outhustle him on the inside. I can also imagine a prime mccallum able to pick winkydad apart, while still being able to evade his power. Lamotta would also be able to outhustle him.

      Neither de la pacquiao isnt a very good infighter, and also could be outjabbed and outboxed by a good counter puncher. Dlp has great stamina but it started to run out against morales and marquez.
      lmao!!!!!!!!!

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      • MRBOOMER
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        #43
        What about a Tyson Floyd mix floyds speed and defense with Tyson power it's a kill

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          #44
          Originally posted by blackirish137
          its certainly still a liability. Despite him only being stopped thrice in his prime, he was down agaisnt Leonard, Hagler, Barkley at 160, Barkley at 175, and Kinchen. as well as being rocked multiple times against Ray Leonard at 168lbs and Juan Domingo Roldan.

          I dont think he had the worst chin ever, but if you had to pick a weak spot for him, that would have been it.
          his stamina was much better at 154 and up than it was at WW.
          Good points. He was but its not like any of those guys can't hit.

          Leonard being a superb finisher, once he had him it was inevitable, and IMO his lack of stamina allowed him to get him.

          Me personally to pick a weak spot on him would be his stamina. Obviously his chin was a liability but the whole 'Tommy Hearn's chin was so bad' is all just people following a myth IMO.

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            #45
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Good points. He was but its not like any of those guys can't hit.

            Leonard being a superb finisher, once he had him it was inevitable, and IMO his lack of stamina allowed him to get him.

            Me personally to pick a weak spot on him would be his stamina. Obviously his chin was a liability but the whole 'Tommy Hearn's chin was so bad' is all just people following a myth IMO.
            personally, I think his chin/overally durablitiy was worse than his stamina. I mean, other than the 1st Leonard fight, he really didnt run out of stamina.

            Kinchen was a decent puncher, but not huge. I can definitely think of harder punchers, and Hearns was in lala land in their fight after getting dropped. the amount he grabbed was almost enough to be DQed. likewise with Roldan.

            I think its more likely that a bigger puncher than Roldan/Kinchen would be able to rock Hearns than someone being able to drain Hearns late in the fight(which only happened once in his whole career). Hearns was too good of a boxer for that.

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            • Michael Hall
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              #46
              Give me Floyd Mayweather with Diego Corrales punching power at Lightweight. I'll take that fighter over any real or merged lightweight in the history of the sport.

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                #47
                If Tito had Winky Defense he would be undefeated at 147-160.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  No I would definitely say it was his brutal power.
                  Originally posted by blackirish137
                  Trinidad did not have a high workrate. his style, without power, would have been pretty ineffective.


                  You're right, my bad He never did well against guys who were hard to hit, and now that I think about it, it has to be because he relied on his power so much.

                  My memories of tito are still when I was pretty young, and the only fights of his I watched since he retired on my own are vargas and hopkins.

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                    #49
                    I like Pernell Whitaker with Tito's power better.

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                    • Michael Hall
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      If Tito had Winky Defense he would be undefeated at 147-160.
                      I'd take Floyd with Chico Corrales punching power.

                      That version of Floyd would have as many knockouts as wins. No boxer can stand up to that kind of offensive assault and defensive wizardry.

                      Tito with Winky's defense is still an aggressive, come-forward fighter. Floyd (with Chico Corrales punching power) keeps Tito (with Winky's defense) in a defensive shell all night long.

                      The fight would be similar to Pac-Clottey.

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