Latest Ring Magazine Rankings, Donaire OVERTAKES Martinez and JMM to grab #3 spot....

[Bushbaby]

Montiel and Darchinyan are both future Hall of Famers, and Donaire beat them in their primes.

Williams and Pavlik can't really be classed as future HoF'ers yet (especially Williams).

prime-Montiel + prime-Darchinyan > prime-Williams + prime-Pavlik.

Donaire's resume > Martinez's

Montiel I know,Darchinian??But that still doesn't make his resume better.Besides how long ago was the Darchinian fight??Were talking pfp list,curently bro.Pavlik was the lineal champion at 160,the Punisher was the 3rd pfp,next up is Dzinziruk,2 good fighter years apart says nothing about pfp.But Martinez has almost twice as much fights & has been on a tear against top fighters in his weight class,so no,U are wrong.

[jrosales13]

I don't understand...What is The ring criteria for divisional rankings?

[jrosales13]

Sergio Martinez beat the #4 p4p fighter to get the #3 spot. I don't get how Donaire beating the #7 p4p fighter is a better win than Martinez beating the #4 p4p fighter. Plus Martinez' KO was better. Donaire should be #4, not #3.

You're acting like if there is an official P4P list.

[-PANDA-]

Every fighter you named there was dominated and all(except Peterson)was highly ranked..He did not KO umm but he really out boxed umm..I really think Bradley beat Holt by UD but I'm not sure..

He did win by UD..

witter wasnt really dominated but thats forgivable seeing as bradley was green when he beat him. alexander wasnt dominated either, holt was and campbell complained like a little b1tch. ranked or not most of those fighters had tomato cans on their resume

khan is the last man standing and is likely to beat bradley too which is the main reason panda doesnt feel bradley belongs in the p4p top 10

[jrosales13]

Poor Martinez..

Oh and Froch not being on there is an even bigger joke.......

Who the hell is wongonjam? some lower weight champion i guess? never heard of him but who has he beaten to justify 6th spot?

Yea, if you really don't know Wonjongkam is then you shouldn't give your opinion on the matter.

[PEBBLES!]

Wladimir should be above the likes of Donaire, JMM & Pacquiao.

[jrosales13]

r u kidding me??? ive been following doniare for quite some time, even b4 the darchinyan fight. and ive been criticizing him since i came on this site. shut ur face n stop acting like an ass.

wat im saying is true. ur a donaire fan?? cool. but name fighters besides darchinyan and donaire that are worth **** on his resume?

and as far as the cintron draw, so waht?? a draw doesnt count??? that draw with cintron is worth more than the last to midgets donaire fought b4 montiel. and what ring should have done is wait for martinez to fight before moving him down anyways. he did nothing to deserve movbing him down. so even if his next fight doesnt count for him, it shouldnt count against him. punk ass.

Sydorenko, he probably was on the down slide of his career. But, still a solid career bantamweight. And, Donaire blitzed him. Also Raul Martinez is a solid win for Donaire. He has more names on his resume than just Montiel and Darchinyan.

For whatever reason, people feel the need to give Nonito absolutely not credit for that victory. Even though that guy took Moreno life and death twice and Nonito out classed him.

No disrespect bro, but did you see those fights?

Please see the fight. Don't just look at boxrec and see a SD and think it was close fight. Moreno outclassed Sydorenko, beat him pretty wide, it wasn't close at all bro. Neither fight were close. The scores from the judges might seem like it was close. But, that's because both fights took place in Germany. And, for Moreno to come out of Germany with a victory in both fights. Should give you some kind of an idea how lopsided it really was.

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1 Pac
2 Floyd
3 Martinez
4 Donaire
5 Hopkins
6 Wlad Klitschko
7 Froch
8 Juanma Lopez
9 Vitali Klitschko
10 Timothy Bradley

[jrosales13]

Martinez inhereted the Overrated status from Paul Williams. Compare the two notable wins from Donaire and Martinez. (Paul Williams + Pavlike) vs (Darch vs Montiel).

IMO Martinez is still untested. Pavlik was exposed by Bhop and Taylor, he was probably going downhill having that problem in his arms and alcholism. Paul Williams is the most overrated fighter of all time with no defense and only uses his size advantage over his opponent.

Darch and montiel was on top of their game when they lost to Donaire. Its a no brainer.

I want Martinez to fight fighters like Pirog, Bute, Froch,Kessler- solid fighters before we know where he belongs.

[DoktorSleepless]

You're acting like if there is an official P4P list.

No, I'm not. It only makes sense that I use ring magazine's own damn ratings to see how much a win is worth for their own damn list. Martinez beats the #4 in the ring list and Donaire beats the #7 in the ring list. By using ring magazine's own criteria of who's p4p, how does Donaire surpassing Martinez make any sense? #4 > #7