Montiel Was Half His Size

[BattleHardened]

Lol I get redded by all these ******ed pinoys for making an observation.

Montiel was far smaller.. You have to be fucking blind to say otherwise. I still stand by what I said.

I can't believe they are trying to say that Montiel was bigger. All you have to do is see with your own two eyes.

Let me Guess, Pac was the nearly the same size as DLH on fight night too? Cause the weight wasn't too far off.. Great ****ing logic.

All of you dumb fuck pinoys don't have the slightest ****ing clue about anything boxing. That's why I hope Mosley Knocks out Pac, and Donaire gets sparked out as soon as he fights someone his own size. I dont have anything against either fighter, but I hate you dumb fucking pinoys more then any people on the planet.

[BattleHardened]

willams vs martinez
6'1 vs 5'10 (according to boxrec)
ring #3 P4P vs #5 P4P
williams 156lbs, martinez 157lbs
shorter man wins via KO2 from a perfect left hook counter
haters: it don't mean ****, williams is really a welterweight, sergio was too big for him!

donaire vs montiel
5'6 vs 5'4 (according to boxrec)
donaire 118lbs, montiel 118lbs
ring #5 P4P vs #7 P4P
taller man wins via KO2 from a perfect left hook counter
haters: it don't mean ****, montiel is a midget, donaire was too big for him!

When did I ever say anything about williams vs martinez? They looked similar in size. WTF does height have to do with anything? When have I ever mentioned height in this thread. If you can't visually tell who is bigger ina fight then you shouldnt be watching boxing.

[mathed]

Lol, what does that have to do with anything? Learn boxing.

Didn't you watch the Shawn Porter last night on FNF's? He was fighting a guy who came from lightweight, and Porter from 165. The lightweight weighed more.

You don't look at weight to tell who is bigger, it was obvious who was far bigger.

Donaire:
height 5′ 6″ / 168cm
reach 68″ / 173cm

Montiel:
height 5′ 4″ / 163cm
reach 66½″ / 169cm

He was slightly taller and had a reach advantage but it wasn't like Martinez against Pavlik

[BattleHardened]

Donaire:
height 5′ 6″ / 168cm
reach 68″ / 173cm

Montiel:
height 5′ 4″ / 163cm
reach 66½″ / 169cm

He was slightly taller and had a reach advantage but it wasn't like Martinez against Pavlik

On top of being taller, and having a longer reach which neither I mentioned or thought of, his frame was also bigger.

Live I have been saying. He was the far bigger guy.

[VoodooChild]

On top of being taller, and having a longer reach which neither I mentioned or thought of, his frame was also bigger.

Live I have been saying. He was the far bigger guy.

So are you proposing "frame size" divisions for people based on a visual assessment? You're absolutely nuts!!! The only objective quantifiable measurement you can use is weight/mass.

[Alibata]

So are you proposing "frame size" divisions for people based on a visual assessment? You're absolutely nuts!!! The only objective quantifiable measurement you can use is weight/mass.

Donaire had less bone and therefore more muscle then Montiel regardless of Montiel weighing more then Donaire. Donaire is bigger because his skeleton allows for more muscle because of his lighter and smaller bones. Montiel only weighed more because his bones where bigger but he is the smaller man because his bones don't allow as much muscle as donaires,, TS can correct me if I am wrong... He is an expert at assessing why 118=118 isn't really equal

[BattleHardened]

So are you proposing "frame size" divisions for people based on a visual assessment? You're absolutely nuts!!! The only objective quantifiable measurement you can use is weight/mass.

When did I propose this frame division you speak of?

Why the fuck do you idiots keep putting words in my mouth?

I said I don't think it's that great of a win because he was the far bigger man.

Look at what I said in the first fucking post, and quit putting words in my mouth. Dipshits. That's like the 20th time in this thread.

[VoodooChild]

Donaire had less bone and therefore more muscle then Montiel regardless of Montiel weighing more then Donaire. Donaire is bigger because his skeleton allows for more muscle because of his lighter and smaller bones. Montiel only weighed more because his bones where bigger but he is the smaller man because his bones don't allow as much muscle as donaires,, TS can correct me if I am wrong... He is an expert at assessing why 118=118 isn't really equal

I forgot about that, these guys with their x-ray vision can detect how much bone and muscle density a person has. Even though he came in weighing less on fight night he's cheating somehow and really should have taken Kessler's place in the super six. What a bully...

[Jack Napier]

calm down BH :laugh:

[VoodooChild]

When did I propose this frame division you speak of?

Why the fuck do you idiots keep putting words in my mouth?

I said I don't think it's that great of a win because he was the far bigger man.

Look at what I said in the first fucking post, and quit putting words in my mouth. Dipshits. That's like the 20th time in this thread.

How do you define bigger and how do you measure it?