The only way to not be frustrated about BS boxing

[AllEyesOpen]

I am definitely not frustrated by tonight's cards.


Some great fights this eve.


The glass is half full for sure.

Agreed, I think some people are just spoiled by the fact the last few years have had a lot of great boxing all year round, this year things are slowing down a bit.

I for one still enjoy a good boxing match, and regardless of how you feel about the skill and will needed by MMA fights, for me it's just not fun to watch 2 guys on the ground huging for 3 minutes. Honestly the best MMA fights i have seen have been stand up fights, & i can get that from boxing without a split second stoppage to end the fight early.

another rant/

[Deevel916]

In all honesty, boxing has turned into a male soap opera! More bickering and arguing than actual fighting. Its pathetic! This has to be the most frustrating sport to be a fan of. The most anticipated fights take months and sometimes years to happen.

Say what you want about MMA and thier fans. Those are some happy ass fans! They get the fights that are suppose to happen and actually want to see! B.S fights aren't shoved down thier throats like in boxing.

[Instinto]

Lets compare Jon Jones, one of MMA's fastest raising star with somone like Chavez Junior or even Bradley (even though you might think Bradley isn't doing so bad, he is actually)

What's your point about Bradley? He defeated three reigning champions, he is unified jr. ww champion. How can you say that he is doing bad?

[Allucard]

What's your point about Bradley? He defeated three reigning champions, he is unified jr. ww champion. How can you say that he is doing bad?

Compared to Jon Jones he's also doing bad. Jones did all that in less than 3 years time. In 6 weeks if he wins vs Shogun he will be considered the best in the world, PERIOD. Bradley could have done all that but there are 3 or more other champions who can claim they are the best and Bradley has to fight them too. When they all fall and by chance Bradley is still on top of his game he will be nearly 40. That's the difference. We don't ever get closure, EVER. I'm sick of it and i was done with my rant don't make me start over.

[Instinto]

Agreed, I think some people are just spoiled by the fact the last few years have had a lot of great boxing all year round, this year things are slowing down a bit.

I for one still enjoy a good boxing match, and regardless of how you feel about the skill and will needed by MMA fights, for me it's just not fun to watch 2 guys on the ground huging for 3 minutes. Honestly the best MMA fights i have seen have been stand up fights, & i can get that from boxing without a split second stoppage to end the fight early.

another rant/

I've been looking for the boxing PPV numbers. From the informations I got 2005, 2006, 2007 has a huge jump in number of PPV fights.

2007
Oscar De La Hoya-Floyd Mayweather: 2.4 mil
Floyd Mayweather-Ricky Hatton - 1,000,000
Miguel Cotto-Shane Mosley - 400,000
Bernard Hopkins-Winky Wright: 305 000
Marco Antonio Barrera-Juan Manuel Marquez: 225 000
Miguel Cotto-Zab Judah: 180 000
Roy Jones-Anthony Hanshaw: 24 000

2006
Fernando Vargas-Shane Mosley II: 350,000
Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga: 935 000
Bernard Hopkins-Antonio Tarver: 350 000
Floyd Mayweather-Zab Judah: 350 000
Fernando Vargas-Shane Mosley - 410,000
Erik Morales-Manny Pacquiao III: 360 000
Erik Morales-Manny Pacquiao II: 350 000
Floyd Mayweather-Carlos Baldomir: 340 000
Marco Antonio Barrera-Rocky Juarez: 165 000
Miguel Cotto-Paulie Malignaggi : 90 000
Hasim Rahman-Oleg Maskaev: 60 000
Antonio Margarito-Manuel Gomez: 35 000

2005
Erik Morales-Manny Pacquiao I: 340 000
Arturo Gatti-Floyd Mayweather: 360 000
Jermain Taylor-Bernard Hopkins I: 370 000
Jermain Taylor-Bernard Hopkins II: 410 000
Roy Jones-Antonio Tarver III: 405 000
Felix Trinidad-Winky Wright: 520 000
Shane Mosley-David Estrada & Antonio Margarito-Kermit Cintron: 225 000
Marco Antonio Barrera-Robbie Peden & Shane Mosley-Jose Luis Cruz: 110 000
Marco Antonio Barrera-Mzonke Fana: 75 000


Today we don't have so many PPV fights. Then again if you look back to the 90-s you see the same situation as today, not so many PPV fights

1999
Oscar De La Hoya-Felix Trinidad: 1.4 mil
Evander Holyfield-Lennox Lewis I: 1.2 mi
Mike Tyson-Frans Botha: 700 000l
Oscar De La Hoya-Ike Quartey: 570 000

1998
Oscar De La Hoya-Julio Cesar Chavez II: 525 000

1997

Mike Tyson-Evander Holyfield II: 1.99 mil
Mike Tyson-Frank Bruno II: 1.37 mil
Oscar De La Hoya-Pernell Whitaker: 720 000
Oscar De La Hoya-Hector Camacho: 560 000
Oscar De La Hoya-Miguel Angel Gonzales: 345 000
Oscar De La Hoya-Wilfredo Rivera: 240 000

1996
Mike Tyson-Evander Holyfield I: 1.59 mil
Mike Tyson-Bruce Selden: 1.01 mil

Boxing fans became too critical to fighters. Previously guys like Hopkins, Roy Jones fought only bum after bum and nobody would complain. But now they try to criticize even 24-year old Khan's opponents.

[Instinto]

Compared to Jon Jones he's also doing bad. Jones did all that in less than 3 years time. In 6 weeks if he wins vs Shogun he will be considered the best in the world, PERIOD. Bradley could have done all that but there are 3 or more other champions who can claim they are the best and Bradley has to fight them too. When they all fall and by chance Bradley is still on top of his game he will be nearly 40. That's the difference. We don't ever get closure, EVER. I'm sick of it and i was done with my rant don't make me start over.

Boxing is very difficult sport and has many good fighters. You can't just come over and in 2-3 years beat up every guy. Of course in MMA where most of the fighters are not legit, even wrestlers from WWE can beat all MMA fighters and become champion, but in boxing you have to spend many years and training to reach the top.

[Allucard]

In all honesty, boxing has turned into a male soap opera! More bickering and arguing than actual fighting. Its pathetic! This has to be the most frustrating sport to be a fan of. The most anticipated fights take months and sometimes years to happen.

Say what you want about MMA and thier fans. Those are some happy ass fans! They get the fights that are suppose to happen and actually want to see! B.S fights aren't shoved down thier throats like in boxing.

Yes that's one of the main problems with the sport. In MMA the fans say "what if they fight?" Dana White says "Done, in 6 weeks". Boom we get what we want to see. Even if they could milk the fighters further THEY CHOOSE NOT TO.

[Instinto]

but there are 3 or more other champions who can claim they are the best and Bradley has to fight them too.

In MMA every thing is about winning title and defending it. But boxing is not about titles, he doesn't have to fight all other champions. Does Manny Pacquiao have to fight Zaveck and Senchenko to prove he is the best? Maybe you don't know, but in boxing world he doesn't have to beat them.

[Allucard]

Boxing is very difficult sport and has many good fighters. You can't just come over and in 2-3 years beat up every guy. Of course in MMA where most of the fighters are not legit, even wrestlers from WWE can beat all MMA fighters and become champion, but in boxing you have to spend many years and training to reach the top.

It's not about that. If it was Floyd Mayweather wouldn't be a champion at 23 or Manny a champion by age 16?! (was he?) It's just a couple examples... Nothing justifies people waiting till their early 30's to take chances! And MMA has evolved a ton lot! The only older fighter still doing well is Anderson Silva because he's not human lol. Everyone from the old era (when people didn't know what they were doing) is losing badly and they aren't even that old! In 5 years the sport evolved a million years! The main difference is people like GSP, they train EVERY SINGLE DAY. He tries to improve as a mixed martial artist every day, whereas most boxers take entire months off of training between fights.

[jqSide]

I'm telling you MMA is winning over big time. The only way to even stand boxing is looking up who's fighting THIS week, not caring about BS hype and fantasy fights, hope for a worthy fight in the weekend and that's it. If you want to get hype about fights MMA is the way to go because those guys ARE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT before they fight.

/rant

I have nothing against MMA. Absolutely nothing. Boxing just frustrates the hell out of me because you don't get to see it too often. Takes weeks, months even years just to see minor stars get in the ring. You may never even see the ones you want to see fight each other. It then becomes just fantasy fights. It's terrible.

I don't buy the **** connotation in MMA fights. You're probably a **** if you even think that way.