Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao: I'll Fight Mayweather, The Fans Want It

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Just what I thought, more dribble

Then, point out what you think is inaccurate.....

FACT : The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is.....
.......... Josh " the punching bag " Clottey.

Mayweather fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley..... I don't count Hatton or Marquez as WW.

So, let's summarize.....

Above 147.....
Manny fought faded no-wraps cheato at catch-weight, Floyd fought Hoya at 154 when he was champ, no comparison there.

At 147.....
Clottey, who wouldn't fight back for some reason, faded Cotto at 145, and shrink-wrapped Hoya..... is not as good as Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez.

lol! 145 Cotto will destroy Mitchell and Baldomir even at 145 just like Cotto who weighed in at 145 against Judah and destroyed him. These small little things you should included in your BS post. Pac moved down and up in weight to fight these opponents and yet you failed to mentioned the weight he gave away in these fights. Pac had just one fight at 135 forced to move up at 147 to fight Oscar. Pac destroyed him and sent into retirement. Then from 147, he moved down to 140 and destroyed Hatton in his best weight and once again sent another fighter into retirement. Then from 140 he moved up 5 lbs above to meet Cotto at 145 where Cotto's last fight he weighed in 146. You must also add the fact Cotto has 6 months to lose those mere 1 lb safely. By the way, 150 Margo who weighed 165 against Pac will destroy all Floyd opponents...let say like Pac outweighed by a whooping 17 lbs. These tiny little things variables you failed to mention as wel. Why? maybe because these will not fit in your agenda so you twisted these facts.

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14 reasons why ADP02 is a whiney b1tch.....

This is the last time that I reply to a wall of whiney dribble kid

Didn't you feel like a right idiot posting that rubbish ?

a) You said, "My post is in reply to a statement that Manny had "cleaned out" the welterweight division."

BUT you also bring up Mayweather vs Oscar and Manny vs Margarito. Was that you replying to "cleaning out the WW division"???? JUST WOW!


WHO FKN CARES YOU WHINEY **** ?

A poster stated that Manny "cleaned out" the welterweight division, and that he has a better resume' at 147 than Mayflower.

Both of those statements are incorrect.

Some posters - mostly dishonest whiney ****s like you - like to state that Margarito is a JMW, hence why Manny won his title at 154, but then they also like to include cheato among Manny's list of welter's.

You cannot include him twice, so I drew the line.

Why would you even mention that you whiney little cretin? I did exactly the same for Mayflower, and seperated both of their wins by divisions.

THAT IS HOW BOXING DIFFERENTIATES FIGHTS YOU WHINEY ***

Both were included and rated identically, so what was your point?


b) You are continuously posting these points. You just needed to post it once IF its a reply BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT you issued a challenge when you said "refute anything in this post that is even slightly inaccurate....."


Correct, a number of whiney b1tches - like yourself - attempted to concont dishonest dribble - just like you have done in this post - to diminish those facts. But those facts still stand, and have exposed you as a whiney little kid.


2) Mosley will be on Manny's RESUME very soon:
Please read my post. I NEVER SAID the word "win". YOU DID like 5 times!!! More smokescreens placed by LeadUpperCut!!! ... lol!!!!
No its not about me bringing up Mosley, its about you not acknowledging that Manny will be fighting Mosley very soon. This will be on his resume right? My point was that you didn't acknowledge that FACT because you wanted to say, Floyd fought these guys at WW and Manny only fought these other guys.

Again, before you twist it again, all I'm saying is that you could have, at the very least, acknowledged that Mosley would be fighting Manny in your points.


We were comparing resume's you whiney little b1tch. You are a fkn joke for requesting that I include "wins", or even "participation", when that fight has not even taken place as yet.

According to you I should also include Mayflowers "hit list" then, huh? Seeing as how those fights might also take place one day.

That's scraping the bottom of the barrel kid, looking to add "future" wins, to Manny's "current" resume.

You whiney b1tch, keep your ****ty standards to yourself.


SIDE NOTE: As for your "win" or "lose" and "disservice" comment. Disservice made me laugh the most, as you already have made up your mind and stated on many many occasions that Manny is cherry picking and this will be an easy win for Manny. Right? If you are so sure then you might as well add that "win" to Manny's resume! lol! .... Hey twister, personally, I can wait 2 months for the results. Got it?


You are a fkn idiot kid, for going to all the trouble of writing that whiney rubbish. If you don't see that as blatantly dishonest, then give yourself an uppercut and go pick up your standards off the floor, you $5 whore.

It is a joke that you have attempted to pump up Manny's resume by including a win over Mosley in a fight that has not yet taken place.


3) You said, "I did include Hoya".
You included Oscar but you also TWISTED it up buddy. How? You say Clottey is the only guy that Manny fought at 147 JUST TO MAKE YOUR TWISTED POINT (LAME BUDDY) BUT then you add that list of names to Floyd????


I did not you dopey kid, read my quote again.....

FACT : The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is.....
.......... Josh " the punching bag " Clottey.

Oscar was a shrink-wrapped JMW.

You are a fkn idiot if you think that Oscar was a welterweight.


EXAMPLE 1: Mitchell at WW - If Oscar hadn't fought at WW for a long time, how about Mitchell's accomplishments? Is he a career WW in your eyes? How many wins at WW before Floyd? 5? 4? 3? 2? How many against good WW? 5? 4? 3? 2? 1? 0!!! ..... See what I mean?


Nobody said, or insinuated, ANYTHING about being a "career" WW.

Do you also want me to completely remove Cotto seeing as how that was not a genuine welterweight fight anyways? See how dishonesty goes both ways?

FACT:
Mitchell was a weltwerweight, and has fought at 147 ever since.

Stop your whining b1tch.


EXAMPLE 2: You remove Cotto from the list because he came in at 145 but so did 4 of 6 from Floyd's list BUT that didn't stop you from including some of them. TWISTED & LAME!


STOP... YOU FKN DISHONEST WHINEY **** !!

You are either a dishonest ****, or an ignorant idiot. It doesn't matter what Mayflower's opponents weighed, they were not restricted at all, and could have weighed in at the welterweight limit had they chosen to. Cotto did not have that luxury, because that b1tch Pacquiao tried to cheat him on the scales.

You dishonest whiney b1tch.


4) You said, "Clottey, who wouldn't fight back for some reason". That is a "NOOB" type analysis, my friend. Anyhow, just turn it around and presume it was Floyd that fought Clottey. What would you have said? "Floyd blanked Clottey." "Floyd fought a masterpiece." "Floyd mesmerized a tough Clottey who gave Cotto, Margarito and Judah a tough fight.... Floyd made it look easy".


Wake up you noob clown. Clearly, Clottey did not want to hurt Manny in that fight. Clottey was a punching bag. That is not Manny's fault, but only a total arse-licker like you would give him much credit for that win.

Bob Arum won that fight


5) You keep on saying the word "FACTS": I have said this to you before. They are only your points/opinions NOT facts!!!


FACT : The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is.....
.......... Josh " the punching bag " Clottey.


6) You said "Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez..... would likely ALL beat the shot, drained, 145lb, shrink-wrapped Hoya that fought Manny." and you say that I don't know boxing? lol!!! I can't stop laughing. Just so you learn some: Oscar wanted to gain speed against the faster Manny, so he came down to 145 instead of coming in at 147 (and gaining fight night). That was Oscar's mistake because, Manny still had the huge speed and mobility advantage but in some ways, Oscar lost his size advantage .... BUT whatever the reason was, OScar would have used a different strategy against those other guys that you "think" can beat Oscar.

Remember that his prior fight, Oscar came in at 150 and won. So 147 was not impossible, if he did it right.


You are a fkn idiot if you think that weighing 145 two weeks prior to the fight, weighing 145 at the weigh-in, and weighing 145 on fight-night, was an intentional plan to "gain speed". You fkn moron.

And yes, I believe that every single fighter mentioned above would have beaten the faded, drained, shrink-wrapped Hoya that fought Manny. Even Forbes would have beaten him, and Marquez would have most likely forced a stoppage.

I will continue my reply to your dishonest whining in the next post.

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OMG you are a whiney prick ADP02. Give yourself an uppercut for whining about that dribble..... you dishonest Pac-b1tch's are a joke.

7) Its funny that you can mention the fictitious win of Sharmba and Baldomir over Oscar but you avoid a FACT that CAN'T BE DISPUTED .... that is more TWISTS and DISHONESTY by LeadUpperCut, man!!! Clottey and Cotto beat Judah and Cotto beat Mosley. So again, if you remove Mosley and Judah, who is left on Floyd's resume?


Triangle theories now ?

Mosley, would have beaten EVERYONE on Manny's resume, including the faded, battered, 145lb version of Cotto that Manny fought.

Who's left on Manny's resume ?

Dishonest much ?


8) The biggest DISHONESTY of them all: You continuously make a BIG DEAL that Oscar and Cotto came in 2lbs under 147 AND Clottey is the only 147lb Manny fought but you say, "Who cares how much Marquez, Hatton, Mitchell, Judah weighed against Floyd?" TWISTED buddy, just TWISTED!!! AND you avoid the other FACTS that I stated about them 4.
- That they either just came up from 135 and 140 to fight Floyd at 147 (3 of them did!!!)
- That they dropped back down to 135 and 140 because they couldn't beat good WW (3 of them did!!!)
- All 4 had bad records against good WW.
- 3 of those 4 fighters had a total of 2 fights at 147 before fighting Floyd.
- Judah, at WW, lost to Baldomir (lol) just before fighting Floyd. Judah also lost to Clottey, Cotto, Spinks, Floyd ... then went down to 140!!!
- Question: So what makes you think that these 4 fighters make Floyd's resume look so good to you?


Oh don't be so ******, you whiney b1tch.....
You are a dishonest, whiney, pig-ignorant, ****, for attempting to confuse the OPTIONAL weight of Mayflowers opponents with the MANDATORY weight of pacroids opponents.

Stop whining b1tch.....

Also, all I did was mention the opponents and point out if they were disadvantaged, you went much further than that. Shall I be as dishonest as you, and start picking apart the individual opponents themselves?

e.g. I could have stated that Margarito was a slow, plodding, faded, shop-worn, mediocre, welterweight BUM, with no KO power, who could not have beaten any of the top welter's, had just been KTFO by grandpa Mosley, and who had just been banned from boxing for 12 months for loading his gloves.

Dishonest much ?

Stop whining b1tch.



Please continue to be dishonest and therefore continue to believe that Floyd's resume is better at WW ..... but even with your dishonesty, you will need to rethink your strategy in a couple of months because "soon" will have past.


It is a joke that you include "soon" wins on Manny's resume.


10) You said, "Hoya was not a welterweight you noob, he hadn't fought there for SEVEN YEARS." You either can't read or unfortunately can't comprehend. TAKE YOUR PICK!!! I told you from the beginning that you are TWISTING things to try to make Floyd's resume appear better. I made it clear enough that most people would understand. Unfortunately, you didn't get it like most people would.

I SAID, If you don't add Oscar (as a WW) then you shouldn't add some of those names that you listed as true WW on Floyd's side. For example, While Oscar used to be a WW, Mitchell was NEVER a career WW.


Don't be a fkn idiot you dishonest ****. I included all fights for BOTH May/Pac, and clearly stated that I don't regard Hatton or Marquez as welterweights in EXACTLY THE SAME REGARD to Oscar at JMW.

Cotto was never a career welter either, so stop being dishonest you whiney b1tch.

*** you're a whiney dishonest b1tch man



Another point: Oscar had won at 150lbs just months prior to the Manny fight. So most boxing Noobs, I mean, experts had Oscar beating Manny at 147, as Manny was 1 fight from climbing 3 divisions. It's easy being an expert AFTER the fight, like you are doing! lol!


You fkn idiot, did you even watch the Forbes fight? And who cares what the odds were for Manny, CLEARLY Oscar was ***ed. Freddie even said at the weigh-in "we got him". You are just another Manny arse-licker who knows nothing about boxing.


11) Initially, you hadn't added Oscar as part of Manny's resume. I met your challenge and I pointed it out. You admitted it but you are ignoring that fact now and stating "ADP02 I bet you can't refute any inaccuracies". That is again lame and dishonest BECAUSE I DID ALREADY!!!


Smarten up ****head, you yourself did not even notice that I had included Hoya, so stop your dishonest whining b1tch. And I challenged you to refute the post again, because the inclusion of Hoya made no difference to the outcome. I will post it again for you, so that you can whine some more.


12) Floyd had since late 2005 to make his WW resume be what it is today. For most, to have that much time and have only that list of fighters to show for is what one would call a complete failure. Manny started 3 years later and also fought twice (Floyd did too once) outside of WW. So when someone would look and see what he accomplished at WW in that short of a time, they would undoubtedly say that Manny's resume looks better.


Who cares? Just more dishonest whining from ADP. Nobody mentioned anything about "time" ****head, when did you make that up?

It was a straight comparision.

Only a whiney dishonest b1tch would attempt to distort facts with rubbish the way that you have.


13) TWISTED: If you need to do what you do (eg. Clottey, the only one at 147) to "TRY" to make another fighters resume "appear" to be better then all you have is an agenda (hater)


FACT : The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is.....
.......... Josh " the punching bag " Clottey.

"14) Again, you said "and to refute anything in this post that is even slightly inaccurate....."
I have done it on more than 1 occasion now. I would categorize some as HUGE inaccuracies and some slight inaccuracies"

No, you just whine like a b1tch, spouting dishonest fan-boy rubbish.

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FACT : The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is.....
.......... Josh " the punching bag " Clottey.

Mayweather fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley.....
I don't count Hatton or Marquez as WW.

So, let's summarize.....

Above 147.....
Manny fought faded no-wraps cheato at catch-weight, Floyd fought faded Hoya at 154 when he was champ, no comparison there.

At 147.....
Clottey, who wouldn't fight back for some reason, faded Cotto at 145, and shrink-wrapped Hoya..... is not as good as Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, faded Mosley, Hatton, and faded outmatched Marquez.

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Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW opponent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all

7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

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BTW ADP, so you wanna take the dishonest approach and state that.....

"Clottey and Cotto beat Judah and Cotto beat Mosley. So again, if you remove Mosley and Judah, who is left on Floyd's resume?"

Kid, the Hoya that Mayweather fought would **** on ALL of Pac's opponents.

As would the Mosley that Mayflower fought.

Maybe, you might wanna rethink that particular dishonest viewpoint ?

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During Manny Pacquiao's recent media tour to promote the upcoming fight with Shane Mosley, scheduled for May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, we asked him the inevitable and inescapable question about the prospect of a mega fight with unbeaten, six-time champion, Floyd Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs).

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here we go with the riddles again....its no secret that Manny would SAY he is willing to share a ring with Floyd....I heard that line before.....he just has to say that he is willing to take those corny ass tests whenever they want him to.....and IF that don't make Floyd rise from the grave.....then he's what the Manny fans have been calling him.....UNTIL then....BOTH of those mofos playing itch bay games!!

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This is the last time that I reply to a wall of whiney dribble kid

Didn't you feel like a right idiot posting that rubbish ?

Something tells me that it will not be your last reply......

More SmokeScreens implemented by LeadUpperCut....

1) You said, "That's scraping the bottom of the barrel kid, looking to add "future" WINS, to Manny's "current" resume."
You said, "It is a joke that you have attempted to pump up Manny's resume by including a WIN over Mosley in a fight that has not yet taken place."
You said, "It is a joke that you include "soon" WINS on Manny's resume."


What is that the 8th time that you said that? I NEVER EVER stated it as a guaranteed future win. YOU DID!!! .....

I even told you BUT YOU ARE TOO DISHONEST and avoided my reply altogether.... You are just a hater that just doesn't want to admit it.

I stated that you could have acknowledged that Manny will be fighting and therefore having Mosley onto his resume too, win or lose. It's very clear except for YOU. Hey even BOXREC has a note stating that fight is scheduled. Are they scraping the barrel? Did they give Manny the win?

You are the dishonest one for saying that I am calling it a win. I never said that and if you say that I did.... Please show me the link or PROOF that I said, "include Mosley as a win for Manny". If you can find that supposed fact that you continually lie about then I will say you are right.

Until then you are the dishonest one in this AND YOU ARE WRONG.

I SEE NO FACTS from you, just your nonsense opinions.


2) You said, "We were comparing resume's you whiney little b1tch."

Is that what you are doing? You are coming up with your own nonsensical twisted rules and ways to compare and that is where your problem lies.

You say Oscar can't be considered because he didn't fight at 147 for a long time. What???? Before that fight Manny NEVER EVER fought at 140 nor 147. You are making these dumb rules up to compare resumes.

Mitchel though is OK for you as a WW? What crazy standards you have, man!!!


3) You said, "Nobody said, or insinuated, ANYTHING about being a "career" WW."

You are dishonest. That is all that can be said. Is that what you took from what I stated? Really? Maybe the problem is that I was giving you more credit than you deserve if you actually believe in what you wrote. It's that or you are dishonest. TAKE YOUR PICK!!!


4) You said, "Do you also want me to completely remove Cotto"

Man, what is the point discussing with you. Is that another twisted rule that you came up with to compare resumes? Really? YOU ARE A JOKE!!!


5) You said, "It doesn't matter what Mayflower's opponents weighed, they were not restricted at all, and could have weighed in at the welterweight limit had they chosen to. Cotto did not have that luxury, because that b1tch Pacquiao tried to cheat him on the scales."

WOW!!! New rule created by LeadUpperCut! So it doesn't matter what Floyd's fighters came in at only Manny's? It matters buddy! Guys like Marquez, Hatton, Mitchell ... were trying to make weight BUT they couldn't even make 147 and be in the best of their condition. Therefore, giving Floyd the advantage. It's funny that you can see it one way but not the other way. As for Manny, his last fight was at 140 and he NEVER weighed in at 147. So they negotiated at 145 so that Cotto does not have a huge size advantage. Nothing new as it has been done before BUT you make that 1lb (Cotto's previous fight he weighed in at 146) so so big BUT for Floyd to continually pick on guys who hardly fought at 147, if ever, you say, "SO WHAT?????"


NOTE: Oscar could have weighed whatever he wanted too at WW but you brought that one up. Oh, now you get my point. Right? I hope you do!!!


6) You said "Wake up you noob clown. Clearly, Clottey did not want to hurt Manny in that fight. Clottey was a punching bag. That is not Manny's fault, but only a total arse-licker like you would give him much credit for that win. Bob Arum won that fight".

Is this another FACT of yours? Again, show me the proof ......

You were at least more honest and believable when you admitted that you didn't have the capacity to understand the whys when you said, "Clottey, who wouldn't fight back FOR SOME REASON"

You are still trying to convince yourself that it was fixed, hey? Only you and a few other haters say that. You are either a hardcore hater (no doubt) or bad at analyzing fighters (obviously). I guess you have never seen
Clottey fight before? I mean, really observed how he fights?

Go look at the Cotto fight, for example. When Cotto gives him that opportunity to fight, Clottey is hitting Cotto with all kinds of shots......BUT when Cotto goes on a more consistent attack (combinations), Clottey covers up into that FULL-TURTLE position. Its less obvious because Cotto does not attack like Manny but there is your reason. Add the fact that Manny is quite accurate with his punches and has a very high workrate, it put Clottey on the defense all night long. Yes, Clottey could have and should have done better but it was NOT a FIXED!!!



7) You said, "You are a fkn idiot if you think that weighing 145 two weeks prior to the fight, weighing 145 at the weigh-in, and weighing 145 on fight-night, was an intentional plan to "gain speed". You fkn moron .... and Oscar
would lose to Baldomir, Mitchell, Hatton and get KOed by Marquez. ...."


I see LEadUpperCut is getting desperate as he is anteing the name calling. Sad stuff ..... Whatever.

Those numbers you stated are a bit skewed and you probably stated it without even knowing what they mean.

Oscar was on weight for a week or so with no problem .... There were comments by Oscar and his team that said that OScar is in great shape and had planned to come in at least 1lb under 147.

If a fighter is having problems coming in at a certain weight (147) then he will not be coming in at 145. That fighter would more than likely be over the weight limit and come in very close to 147 at weigh in, if he is lucky to make it. There would be no reason to come in at 145..... BUT Oscar said, "others struggle to make weight, that is not the case for me in this fight."

Oscar stated it prior to the fight that coming down in weight actually helped him gain speed. Oscar said it NOT ME!!! Oscar said, we can beat Manny's speed with being quick enough to time Manny coming in. AGAIN, Oscar said it NOT me!

Oscar stated that he hadn't felt that good in a long long time. "I want to make sure I keep the speed" De La Hoya said. "The power is there"

I'm just stating what Oscar said and you couldn't believe he said it.

This was no way prime Oscar and he lost that "edge" at 145, as I stated in my previous post. For the part time fighter, as I said so before, it still took a combination of Oscar losing a degree of his abilities AND Manny taking full advantage of it by using his superior speed and movement to win. ROACH AND MANNY has always said that was the game plan because Oscar couldn't pull the trigger against the speedier Manny.

Baldomir would NOT be able to do what Manny did therefore Oscar would have found THE OLDER Baldomir and connected easily .... and as I said BUT you avoided, Oscar would have a different strategy for slow-As-Molasses Baldomir.


Oh and if you think that Marquez would KO Oscar, Clottey was fixed and you are ready to remove Cotto from your list then there is no point in asking Manny to come down to 140 to fight Marquez. Right? BECAUSE IF Marquez can duplicate what Manny did then by asking for Manny to come down to 140 means Marquez is doing it just to drain Manny a bit. I don't feel that way but I'm just using your idiotic logic, man!



8) You said, "Triangle theories now ?"

What triangle theories? Clottey DID beat Judah. Cotto DID beat Judah. Cotto did beat Mosley.

BUT the worst part about bringing that up is that you did it to smokescreen (avoid) the comment about your fantasy fight of older slower Baldomir beating Oscar..... lol. "

You try to counter your "fantasy fight" by stating "Triangle theories now" that aren't so? Man, I'm rolling on the floor! lol!

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9) You said, "attempting to confuse the OPTIONAL weight of Mayflowers opponents with the MANDATORY weight of pacroids opponents."

For Manny, asking Cotto to go down 1lb from his previous fight was not a big thing except in your mind. You always forget that it was only Manny's 2nd fight at 147, his previous fight was at 140, Manny will weighin below 147 and its really hard to gauge that ONLY win by Manny at 147.

For Floyd, he had NO DISADVANTAGES ONLY THE SMALLER OPPONENTS DID. So telling them that they can come up as high as 147 is a JOKE, PERIOD ....


You can't have it both ways buddy. meaning constantly complaining on these boards about Manny, who always has a weight disadvantage and Floyd, who you are OK with. Or is it that you just want to win a point at all costs?




10) You said, "Shall I be as dishonest as you, and start picking apart the individual opponents themselves? e.g. I could have stated that Margarito was a slow, plodding, faded, shop-worn, mediocre, welterweight BUM, ...."


While you did it already ....... INTERESTING ...... So now we are back with those pesky "adjectives" are we? You don't like it anymore when the other guy does it, hey?



11) You said, "Freddie even said at the weigh-in "we got him".

While Freddie knew that Oscar may struggle to make 147, what he meant was that Freddie was worried that Oscar would come in at 147 and then gain another 12lbs and therefore be able to BULLY Manny. Freddie could not have known for sure that Oscar was drained. That was Oscar's mistake, as I stated as well, previously.

Freddie trained both so he knew Oscar's weaknesses and Manny's strengths. Freddie said the key was Manny's speed and avoiding OSCAR'S left and avoiding the ropes. Plus that Oscar couldn't pull the trigger against a guy with Manny's speed and movement. Being that Manny's a southpaw and all, Oscar requires a good right hand to complement his Left ..... BUT Oscar can't pull the trigger with his right anymore.

Freddie was so confident during training camp that he also said that Manny hits harder than Oscar.

BUT Freddie also said whoever wins round 1 of the fight will win the fight. Hmmmm!


Interesting that you believe everything that Freddie says ..... Freddie also thinks that Manny will beat Floyd. So what are you saying to that?



12) You Said, "Who cares? Just more dishonest whining from ADP. Nobody mentioned anything about "time" ****head, when did you make that up? It was a straight comparision."

My my, we are only are aloud to follow LeadUpperCut made up twisted rules ..... BUT timelines are very important. If Floyd had been stuck at WW for 5+ years (and counting) and only has those 6 fighters to show for then one would be saying, ..... "hold on, Floyd's resume at WW was a failure". Especially given who he fought during those years.



13) You SAID, "FACT: Mitchell was a weltwerweight, and has fought at 147 ever since."

oH my how your standards have all of a sudden changed (DROPPED). lol! For you, Cotto did not meet the standards of Manny fighting a legit WW because of weighing 145 but the elite (sarcastic) WW fighter Mitchell, who also weighed in at 145 was fine by your standards. Why? I asked you, name me all he accomplishments prior to Floyd. Did he win 5, 4, 3, 2, or 1 fight? How many fights at 147? 5, 4, 3, 2, or 1 fight? Did he beat noteworthy opponents to say "watch out Floyd"?

No your response was BECAUSE Sharmba fought at WW after losing to Floyd? AFTER??? You don't look at AFTER, you look at BEFORE .... lol! You crack me up! Even then Sharmba was a ZERO at WW. What happened to your standards, buddy?

Sharmba said in the PRE-FIGHT conference, "Floyd's crafty. He reminds me of myself coming up, when I was younger, the THINGS I USED TO DO." The older Sharmba said, "the things I Used to do?" lol!!! Great guy for your resume, huh? lol!


Doesn't Sharmba's own statement just disqualify him automatically?

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Lead ran them all away except the last guy. He reminds me soooo much of this fighter: