Fan asks Manny, "Are you gonna take the tests or what?" Manny responds....

[The Gambler1981]

once again you appeal to others to validate yourself.



and I to mines as well.

That isn't appealing for validation, I don't expect others to help me nor do I need them to share my view.

You are putting yourself on a level with me, so people can judge that for them self, if they so choose.

Is that last line English? I get the words but it is just gibberish

[Pullcounter]

Lack of knowledge to those involved getting testing makes it appear random to them~ knowing for sure is a different matter thus why you are misrepresenting the facts.

nope, you are misunderstanding are the facts.

what you and most *****s are talking about when you say "random" is lack of foreknowledge, not true randomness. the process for wifebeater/mosley was not truly random.

I want better testing in the sport because I am a gambler you nit-wit, PED can make a fight unpredictable that should be easily predictable. Anyone who opposes testing is looking real su****ious also~

I don't opposed PEDs testing... but a 7 day cut off is superior to the 14 day cut off offered in the first round of negotiations and superior to the 18 day cut off for mosley/wifebeater.

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

[The Gambler1981]

nope, you are misunderstanding are the facts.

what you and most *****s are talking about when you say "random" is lack of foreknowledge, not true randomness. the process for wifebeater/mosley was not truly random.


I don't opposed PEDs testing... but a 7 day cut off is superior to the 14 day cut off offered in the first round of negotiations and superior to the 18 day cut off for mosley/wifebeater.




again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

English please English, I know it is tough for you to keep pace but come on.

True randomness doesn't matter, the people involved don't know the test dates and don't know when they will stop or when they will come again. Knowing there will be a stop is different from not knowing there will be a stop no matter when the test actually stop. If 14 days was good for Manny he should have accepted it then and not made this mess, now it is on him to clean it up~

lahlalahlalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

[Pullcounter]

That isn't appealing for validation, I don't expect others to help me nor do I need them to share my view.

nope, but you sure do hold their opinions of you in high regard, hence you need their validation.

You are putting yourself on a level with me, so people can judge that for them self, if they so choose.

and if as you say, if people on these boards have a low opinion of me; and you and I are on the same level, what do you think those on these boards think of you? I'd say your losing their regard for you with the people you so need to validate you just by even going back and forth with me.

Is that last line English? I get the words but it is just gibberish

basically it means "likewise"

[mikemurni]

English please English, I know it is tough for you to keep pace but come on.

True randomness doesn't matter, the people involved don't know the test dates and don't know when they will stop or when they will come again. Knowing there will be a stop is different from not knowing there will be a stop no matter when the test actually stop. If 14 days was good for Manny he should have accepted it then and not made this mess, now it is on him to clean it up~

lahlalahlalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

Too bad there is no utility to display 2 post at the same time.. They should have a partitioned box so that each post from both of you can be displayed side by side. Oh well.. continue the fun..

[Pullcounter]

English please English, I know it is tough for you to keep pace but come on.

lols... wtf are you? the grammar ****? lols...

True randomness doesn't matter, the people involved don't know the test dates and don't know when they will stop or when they will come again. Knowing there will be a stop is different from not knowing there will be a stop no matter when the test actually stop.

finally your feeble reasoning skills have grasped the truth... lack of foreknowledge does not entail randomness.

If 14 days was good for Manny he should have accepted it then and not made this mess, now it is on him to clean it up~

yep and since a 14 day cut off was good enough for wifebeater in the past, then certainly a 7 day cut off should be more than adequate for pac vs. wifebeater.

lahlalahlalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

[The Gambler1981]

nope, but you sure do hold their opinions of you in high regard, hence you need their validation.


and if as you say, if people on these boards have a low opinion of me; and you and I are on the same level, what do you think those on these boards think of you? I'd say your losing their regard for you with the people you so need to validate you just by even going back and forth with me.


basically it means "likewise"

Come on make sense your sentences are getting hard to read

There are people whom I respect yes, but if they disagree with me no biggie as long as they keep it real. If someone I respect really wants to come at me so be it also I just hope they have a good point or it will be a long evening for them.

Like I said I don't think you and I are on the same level but that isn't for me to truly judge.

[The Gambler1981]

lols... wtf are you? the grammar ****? lols...


finally your feeble reasoning skills have grasped the truth... lack of foreknowledge does not entail randomness.


yep and since a 14 day cut off was good enough for wifebeater in the past, then certainly a 7 day cut off should be more than adequate for pac vs. wifebeater.



again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

If you are going to carry on at least make sense~

Not if zero days is what is required to make the fight~

It is called random drug testing, it is called that not because the tester don't know but because the athletes don't know this is elementary. Random is just a word~ stay hung up on a word if that is what you want while the point sails over your head. If that was good with Manny he should have accepted it then and not made this mess, and now it is on him to clean up this mess~


Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

[Pullcounter]

Come on make sense your sentences are getting hard to read

i'll try and dumb it down for you

There are people whom I respect yes, but if they disagree with me no biggie as long as they keep it real. If someone I respect really wants to come at me so be it also I just hope they have a good point or it will be a long evening for them.

lols... yep you and your friends need mutual validation from each other.

Like I said I don't think you and I are on the same level but that isn't for me to truly judge.

yep and you're not on my level either.

[Pullcounter]

If you are going to carry on at least make sense~

ok.. I'll dumb it down for you so you can understand.

Not if zero days is what is required to make the fight~

why would 0 days be required to make the fight if 14 days was acceptable in the first round of negotiations and 18 days was the cut off date for wifebeater/mosley?

It is called random drug testing, it is called that not because the tester don't know but because the athletes don't know this is elementary. Random is just a word~ stay hung up on a word if that is what you want while the point sails over your head.

yep... finally you've grasped the concept of random and lack of foreknowledge. congratulations.

If that was good with Manny he should have accepted it then and not made this mess, and now it is on him to clean up this mess~

yep and since a 14 day cut off was good enough for wifebeater in the past, then certainly a 7 day cut off should be more than adequate for pac vs. wifebeater.

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?