Fan asks Manny, "Are you gonna take the tests or what?" Manny responds....

[Pullcounter]

PED are a sports issue, is boxing not a sport?

yep

The situation is the same, sticking your head in the sand no matter for how long doesn't make thing better it kicks the can down the road~ which is why this argument is the same, get mad at Manny for that it is his mess to clean up.

yep, so you rehash your arguments and I rehash my arguments ad infinitum.

I don't need people to validate me I will share my views and let the chips fall where they may but I do try to keep it real. That people respect various views I have, well I spend a lot of think thinking about and discussing boxing so I am glad all my time doesn't feel wasted

you definitely do need people to validate you. that is why you look to others to find your self-worth. if other didn't "praise" you, then you'd be upset and have a low opinion of your self. the fact that you constantly talk about your history and how other validate you betray that fact.

[Pullcounter]

Random to the participants in the testing is the best route~ both in terms of deterrent and actually catching someone up.

totally agree.. and a 7 day cut off is better than a 14 day cut off is better than an 18 day cut off.

Manny is the money man he can use that to get whatever stipulations he wants or doesn't want. If you want that bread you have to do what he says, the only one with as much pull is Floyd. If he wants to solve this issue that is all he needs to do though it is simple

yep, but the only people still complaining about OST is *****s... everyone else has moved on.

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Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

[Pullcounter]

Stop making the board a worse place~

right back at ya

[The Gambler1981]

yep


yep, so you rehash your arguments and I rehash my arguments ad infinitum.



you definitely do need people to validate you. that is why you look to others to find your self-worth. if other didn't "praise" you, then you'd be upset and have a low opinion of your self. the fact that you constantly talk about your history and how other validate you betray that fact.

Who is validating me right now? If people I respect show me respect that is cool, if someone I don't respect shows me respect cool, if someone I don't respect doesn't respect me whatever I will still share my views.

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Who is validating me right now? If people I respect show me respect that is cool, if someone I don't respect shows me respect cool, if someone I don't respect doesn't respect me whatever I will still share my views.

lols... whatever... that's why you used your "history" and the fact that others "praise" you to try and make a point. if you didn't need other people's validation, you would've never said anything about it at all.

[The Gambler1981]

totally agree.. and a 7 day cut off is better than a 14 day cut off is better than an 18 day cut off.


yep, but the only people still complaining about OST is *****s... everyone else has moved on.



again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

There was no stipulated cut off~ they didn't know there were no more tests coming. Which is better than a stipulated for sure cut off. Misrepresenting facts is not a sound argument~

They are not mutually exclusive once again. You just put that value on anyone that is against Manny's PED stance.


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Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

[The Gambler1981]

lols... whatever... that's why you used your "history" and the fact that others "praise" you to try and make a point. if you didn't need other people's validation, you would've never said anything about it at all.

There are a lot of people viewing this thread, they can judge for them self who is right and who is wrong.

If they think I am wrong so be it~ I am probably glad they feel that way too.

[Pullcounter]

There was no stipulated cut off~ they didn't know there were no more tests coming. Which is better than a stipulated for sure cut off. Misrepresenting facts is not a sound argument~

lack of knowledge does not entail randomness.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10112796&postcount=167

You just put that value on anyone that is against Manny's PED stance.

and you also toward anyone that is against wifebeater's PED stance.

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Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

[Pullcounter]

There are a lot of people viewing this thread, they can judge for them self who is right and who is wrong.

once again you appeal to others to validate yourself.

If they think I am wrong so be it~ I am probably glad they fell that way too.

and I to mines as well.

[The Gambler1981]

lack of knowledge does not entail randomness.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10112796&postcount=167

and you also toward anyone that is against wifebeater's PED stance.



again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

Lack of knowledge to those involved getting testing makes it appear random to them~ knowing for sure is a different matter thus why you are misrepresenting the facts.

I want better testing in the sport because I am a gambler you nit-wit, PED can make a fight unpredictable that should be easily predictable. Anyone who opposes testing is looking real su****ious also~


Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.