Fan asks Manny, "Are you gonna take the tests or what?" Manny responds....

[ronnie_N.]

if floyd had demanded the additional testing for the marquez fight (right after his "vacation"), I might consider him a true champion that wanted to clean the sport... A fighter who want to come back in order to make a statement...

but demanding it out of other people's accusations with no evidence or whatsoever, i figured he's just another stubborn black ****bird...

[ADP02]

Clottey thought alot more about not hurting Manny in their fight. He had alot of good reasons to. Like it or not.

You sound like you're in disbelief especially seeing as honest Arum went through hell and high water to get a KNOWN cheater who was banned from the sport and is IN HOUSE to fight Manny. Don't be so nieve.

You are making stuff up, man! I want REAL HARD PROOF. If you got that then OK, else it's all MAKE BELIEVE!!!

You guys make me laugh. You have NO PROOF on PEDs or fixed fights but you make it sound like the evidence has been found.

When you say disbelief: You should be looking at the mirror because you are the one who just can't believe that Manny has been able to do what he did .... not me!

Why don't you say that about Floyd? Why don't you use that logic with Floyd? You know, Mosley hit Floyd so easily in that 2nd round. Why did Mosley just stop throwing those punches? Mosley never threw those bombs again. It must have been fixed.... right?

See, stories can be made up for any fight but you just hate Manny so that is your gig. Cool! lol!

[LMFAO]

Don't think my reply went through..

[MindBat]

Whenever I hear that, it just makes me laughs. You just let some dude that is not a doctor inject you with **** you had no clue what it was or told you to take this strange **** without asking questions.

Come on now

That excuse didn't fly with the grand jury who questioned Shane. That's for damn sure.

Let's not forget they'll claim it was "only" that "one" time that they got caught they did PED's "unknowingly" to attempt damage control over previous question marks.

I'd love to hear that excuse being a certain honest congroidsman has claimed to not even know what steroids are. How will one claim he's only did them once when he gets caught and 'never' did them before if he doesn't know what steroids are in the first place AND has a strength and conditioning coach who's stated awhile back PUBLICLY "I give Manny a special ****tail that he has no idea what's in it." Manny the congroidsman doesn't question anything. He just takes them but rest assured you can believe his power is all natural. No random OST testing needed.

They could have avoided the whole testing issue by simply stating that the current testing by the NSAC was more than adequate to make the fight happen.

Now it's only the Pac fans who claim Manny doesn't need to take any test.

That's in contradiction to Freddie's statement of "We'll take any test any time."

What a mess.

[LMFAO]

You are making stuff up, man! I want REAL HARD PROOF. If you got that then OK, else it's all MAKE BELIEVE!!!

You guys make me laugh. You have NO PROOF on PEDs or fixed fights but you make it sound like the evidence has been found.

When you say disbelief: You should be looking at the mirror because you are the one who just can't believe that Manny has been able to do what he did .... not me!

Why don't you say that about Floyd? Why don't you use that logic with Floyd? You know, Mosley hit Floyd so easily in that 2nd round. Why did Mosley just stop throwing those punches? Mosley never threw those bombs again. It must have been fixed.... right?

See, stories can be made up for any fight but you just hate Manny so that is your gig. Cool! lol!

What hard proof would a Pac fan believe anyway? Really.

[LMFAO]

That excuse didn't fly with the grand jury who questioned Shane. That's for damn sure.



They could have avoided the whole testing issue by simply stating that the current testing by the NSAC was more than adequate to make the fight happen.

Now it's only the Pac fans who claim Manny doesn't need to take any test.

That's in contradiction to Freddie's statement of "We'll take any test any time."

What a mess.

It's all just buying as much time as humanly possible.

How long has it been? Over a year at least now? How long does Manny have to "train" to take a blood test? People do it everyday. Normal people. Millions. And don't get "weakend" It's not a transfusion.

Hope Mayweather somehow softens his stance

Team Pac can find a way to "alter" the testing.

Public opinion wanes and people get tired of hearing it.

Keep sending out conflicting signals till the "white noise" is too confusing and or again people get tired of it and "just want to see the fight".

Typical lawyer tactics in any big controversial trial. Stall, Stall, Stall.

[TheBoxingEmpire]

Good points on both sides.

Pac just needs to take the damn tests. But Mayweather should let him back off maybe for...3 days? Still take urine, but not give blood the day of or the two days before? Can you take steroid within 3 days and still get them out of your system and have a material effect?

Can Floyd just solve his legal battles and get the hell back in the ring? Now if he loses he'll blame a long layoff.

Is there any other sport out there this lame when it comes to this kind of thing? Can you imagine the Packers and the Steelers arguing about the seeding and who should make more money?

[The Gambler1981]

Good points on both sides.

Pac just needs to take the damn tests. But Mayweather should let him back off maybe for...3 days? Still take urine, but not give blood the day of or the two days before? Can you take steroid within 3 days and still get them out of your system and have a material effect?

Can Floyd just solve his legal battles and get the hell back in the ring? Now if he loses he'll blame a long layoff.

Is there any other sport out there this lame when it comes to this kind of thing? Can you imagine the Packers and the Steelers arguing about the seeding and who should make more money?

It happens in other sport like when they bring up a team being flat when a really good regular season team fall flat on their face because they rested guys. Losers always have an excuse no matter the sport.

It takes a seasoned eye to discern b.s excuses from reasons fights are won or lost

[mikemurni]

What are you talking about Floyd was talked about everyday the two years he was gone and it was the same as always people liking him and people hating him since he is a polarizing figure (which is why he is discussed so much strong feeling of like and dislike).


PED in the American sport scene is a lightning rod issue, this was the downside of Manny acting like he did toward testing this was never going to go away anyone who expected otherwise was being naive..


Floyd could fight tomorrow and nothing would change here. The only thing that causes a change if if THE fight occurs or Floyd gets beat by anyone.

No he wasnt.. The focus attention has moved on to different fighters, and there were hardly any threads for those 2 years. His comeback got attention though but that's because there was a definite plan to fight.

PED was talked about only in 2009. It was not part of the normal discussion in this forum. And if there was, it wasn't getting this much attention..

Ofcourse there will be changes if Floyd announce his next fight. What you talkin' about. The OST issue will escalate further, posters will bash Floyd's choice of next opponent as they do with Pac, etc. But at least there is merit because at least THE FIGHT will be very much a possibility.

'Coz right now, its only Pac who is getting the brunt of criticism because he is the guy who is actively fighting. Which is also a reason why more fighters are calling Pac more than Floyd. And more fights are being matched against Pac compared to Floyd. So dont tell me there wont be any changes.

[LMFAO]

Good points on both sides.

Pac just needs to take the damn tests. But Mayweather should let him back off maybe for...3 days? Still take urine, but not give blood the day of or the two days before? Can you take steroid within 3 days and still get them out of your system and have a material effect?

Can Floyd just solve his legal battles and get the hell back in the ring? Now if he loses he'll blame a long layoff.

Is there any other sport out there this lame when it comes to this kind of thing? Can you imagine the Packers and the Steelers arguing about the seeding and who should make more money?

I honestly think Floyd will eventually ease up on his stance and let Manny have a cutoff date.

Why?

Floyd loves money.

IF Manny were to take full random OST and test positive. That would bust the megafight and Floyd would stand to possibly take a big hit as well finacially.

IF Manny tested positive. It would be a huge letdown for ALOT of people and could cause alot of money to be lost.

I believe Floyd is mentally Fking with Manny and knows he's on something but may fight him regardless.

Again, Manny takes full testing (which he could est positive) they may have to cover it up or at least give a cutoff so as not to ruin the biggest fight in a long time now.