Would Jack Dempsey beat Wladimir Klitschko?

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Basilio was a monster. Imagine him with todays crop at 147 and 154. He would be brutal.

[Steak]

nicolino locche is not unathletic. the guy's reflexes is sublime & that takes fast twitch muscle fibers which require athleticism.

he had speed of mind, not speed of body. it doesnt take that many fast twitch muscles at all to pivot your upper body, its such a short distance.

Locche did not train almost at all, and used to be a chain smoker...even smoking inbetween rounds in some of his fights.
thats unathletic.

[puga]

he would be too primitive for any of the klits.......his style now would really really suck for him even againts the crappiest hw....!....

[BrotherDudeJack]

Oh I agree 100% Jacky bruh. I mean what fighter in this era would chew brine and rub it on their skin to toughin it up against cuts nowadays?

Jack Dempsey... greatest boxer of all-time and old school tough man... chewed tree sap, washed his face with vinegar, and soaked his fists in horse urine, all for the fight.

That's dedication right there..

On top of that, these guys were hungry. If they didn't fight, sometimes their family didn't eat.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

he had speed of mind, not speed of body. it doesnt take that many fast twitch muscles at all to pivot your upper body, its such a short distance.

Locche did not train almost at all, and used to be a chain smoker...even smoking inbetween rounds in some of his fights.
thats unathletic.

he's athletic. him smoking & being lax in training does not make him unathletic. pernell did ******* & sometimes didnt train as hard. that doesnt make him unathletic.

[Bastian Loc]

black irish's point is dead on.

The film doesn't do a lot of these old guys justice. Besides that power and strength is more of a product of sound biomechanics than a gaudy looking body. Most boxers have lean bodies and while they're usually ripped, their not overly muscled yet they can still crack ribs and break forearms no matter what weight they're at.


What a war between Carmen and Ray!!. Can you imagine the fighters of today like Berto or Dirrell who are always looking to complain to the ref if they were thrust in that era?

They'd be lunch.

[Steak]

he's athletic. him smoking & being lax in training does not make him unathletic. pernell did ******* & sometimes didnt train as hard. that doesnt make him unathletic.

If you want to pretend he was athletic, knock yourself out. but he wasnt.

I guess you would also call fat HW version of James Toney athletic as well, but whatever.

anyways, respond to the real point of my original post, stop getting hung up on something I said in passing.

[BrotherDudeJack]

Jack Dempsey... greatest boxer of all-time and old school tough man... chewed tree sap, washed his face with vinegar, and soaked his fists in horse urine, all for the fight.

That's dedication right there..

On top of that, these guys were hungry. If they didn't fight, sometimes their family didn't eat.

Btw, I don't agree with this.. copy and paste.

The old timers were tough as nails though.

Saying this, Wlad is a helluva lot bigger than Dempsey and extremely skilled.

He would most likely be to much for ol' Jack.

[Bastian Loc]

If you want to pretend he was athletic, knock yourself out. but he wasnt.

I guess you would also call fat HW version of James Toney athletic as well, but whatever.

anyways, respond to the real point of my original post, stop getting hung up on something I said in passing.

James Toney is so goddamn masterful that he could carry around 50 pounds of fat and still beat world class guys.

[BrotherDudeJack]

black irish's point is dead on.

The film doesn't do a lot of these old guys justice. Besides that power and strength is more of a product of sound biomechanics than a gaudy looking body. Most boxers have lean bodies and while they're usually ripped, their not overly muscled yet they can still crack ribs and break forearms no matter what weight they're at.


What a war between Carmen and Ray!!. Can you imagine the fighters of today like Berto or Dirrell who are always looking to complain to the ref if they were thrust in that era?

They'd be lunch.

Hell no... they'd be sent home crying to their mothers.