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  • studentofthegam
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    #41
    Pwill-Hearns

    For starters their build can not be denied. Just to get the obvious out of the way.

    They both fought tall. Both lapsed at times. Tend to throw punches from too far away.

    Though they're opposite in stance they both use flicking type jabs not devistating but satisfactory to set up power punches. Both have good uuppercuts.

    They both favor fire fights over classic boxing matches even at the expense of their long necks and questionable chins. I do believe Paul's chin is a bit more durable.

    Hearns has the big edge in power.

    They are both admitted crowd pleasers and fight with the world on theyre shoulders which is good for us. They also rather fight it out when they've been rocked rather than hold. Hearns is more likely to box a little but it never last long.

    The biggest diffrence is that Hearns was more tense and sat down on every punch. Paul tends to be more loose and sit down on punches once he's got an opponents attention. KO swingers.

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      #42
      Originally posted by BigStereotype
      Chavez was anything but a plodder and he had very quick, sharp punches. His inside work was very, very tight. Awful comparison. Hatton and Duran, you could almost make a comparison with that mauling, wrestling style, although Duran was much better at it and had infinitely better defense.
      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
      those are certain similarities, but where's hatton's chin? Where was duran's chin? Who ran in and who closed the distance with more patience and technique. A lot of fighters will put suffocating type pressure on you, but that shouldn't qualify the to be considered similar to duran.
      If you go as far as to say mauling style thats half the battle. A comparison is born. In that case I only compared one fight that look similar to me. Watch Mayweather vs Hatton and SRL vs Duran and tell me you dont see it. Duran would start a round boxing and end the round with his head in Leonards chest throwing which ever arm was free. The difference is Mayweather knew to make space and time Hatton. Leonard flattened his feet to prove a point when it couldve been easy on him.
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      LMAO.....

      Awesome Walt.
      Pull your skirt down. Walt says he's straight.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #43
        Originally posted by studentofthegam
        Pwill-Hearns

        For starters their build can not be denied. Just to get the obvious out of the way.

        They both fought tall. Both lapsed at times. Tend to throw punches from too far away.

        Though they're opposite in stance they both use flicking type jabs not devistating but satisfactory to set up power punches. Both have good uuppercuts.

        They both favor fire fights over classic boxing matches even at the expense of their long necks and questionable chins. I do believe Paul's chin is a bit more durable.

        Hearns has the big edge in power.

        They are both admitted crowd pleasers and fight with the world on theyre shoulders which is good for us. They also rather fight it out when they've been rocked rather than hold. Hearns is more likely to box a little but it never last long.

        The biggest diffrence is that Hearns was more tense and sat down on every punch. Paul tends to be more loose and sit down on punches once he's got an opponents attention. KO swingers.
        LMFAO!!!! This is awesome.

        For starters, Hearns and Williams do not use their jabs in anything close to the same way. Hearns was a boxer first, he used his jab to control distance and his opponent. Williams never does that, he is a brawler who very rarely boxes and uses his jab to feel his way inside and keep his opponent uncomfortable. Completely different jabs.

        Williams is not a KO swinger. He does not have good power, does not pretend to have good power, and doesn't fight like he has good power. He's so active precisely because he doesn't have power, and uses activity to overwhelm his opponents, much like Margarito. Hearns is one of the great knockout punchers ever, and was much more precise with his punches because he knew a flush right hand could end the night against anyone. So wrong there too.

        So, really there is NO comparison between Hearns and Paul Williams other than build. Major fail.

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        • figzuki
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          those guys should be ashamed of themselves... hatton and duran can be compared? u have got to be kidding me....

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          • Bushbaby
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            #45
            Hey Walt,was it *******'s making these comparo's??Sounds like sound pacmunching comparo's to me.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #46
              Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
              Hey Walt,was it *******'s making these comparo's??Sounds like sound pacmunching comparo's to me.
              actually, its a floyd fan. but they're really both the same thing nowadays. they make ridiculous claims to support their fighter that anyone with a brain would see holds no weight.

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                #47
                Originally posted by studentofthegam
                Pwill-Hearns

                For starters their build can not be denied. Just to get the obvious out of the way.

                They both fought tall. Both lapsed at times. Tend to throw punches from too far away.

                Though they're opposite in stance they both use flicking type jabs not devistating but satisfactory to set up power punches. Both have good uuppercuts.

                They both favor fire fights over classic boxing matches even at the expense of their long necks and questionable chins. I do believe Paul's chin is a bit more durable.

                Hearns has the big edge in power.

                They are both admitted crowd pleasers and fight with the world on theyre shoulders which is good for us. They also rather fight it out when they've been rocked rather than hold. Hearns is more likely to box a little but it never last long.

                The biggest diffrence is that Hearns was more tense and sat down on every punch. Paul tends to be more loose and sit down on punches once he's got an opponents attention. KO swingers.

                stopped here.

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                • Walt Liquor
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by studentofthegam
                  If you go as far as to say mauling style thats half the battle. A comparison is born. In that case I only compared one fight that look similar to me. Watch Mayweather vs Hatton and SRL vs Duran and tell me you dont see it. Duran would start a round boxing and end the round with his head in Leonards chest throwing which ever arm was free. The difference is Mayweather knew to make space and time Hatton. Leonard flattened his feet to prove a point when it couldve been easy on him.
                  Pull your skirt down. Walt says he's straight.

                  duran works his way in with head movement and the jab, ricky just tries to duck or rush his way in for the most part. duran also actually tries to block some return fire.

                  mayweather also held A LOT in that fight. Hatton is not as strong as duran either- at all.

                  just because guys like to put their head in another guy's chest and throw punches doesn't mean they should be compared.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by studentofthegam
                    Pwill-Hearns

                    For starters their build can not be denied. Just to get the obvious out of the way.

                    They both fought tall. Both lapsed at times. Tend to throw punches from too far away.

                    Though they're opposite in stance they both use flicking type jabs not devistating but satisfactory to set up power punches. Both have good uuppercuts.

                    They both favor fire fights over classic boxing matches even at the expense of their long necks and questionable chins. I do believe Paul's chin is a bit more durable.

                    Hearns has the big edge in power.

                    They are both admitted crowd pleasers and fight with the world on theyre shoulders which is good for us. They also rather fight it out when they've been rocked rather than hold. Hearns is more likely to box a little but it never last long.

                    The biggest diffrence is that Hearns was more tense and sat down on every punch. Paul tends to be more loose and sit down on punches once he's got an opponents attention. KO swingers.
                    Paul would be really well served to fight tall. He runs in and throws haymakers. He works his way in behind the jab, but he wants to throw power punches at short range as quick as possible. He looks similar to Hearns, but Hearns was really a far superior boxer. He outboxed Ray Leonard, who only beat him by outslugging him.

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                    • BigStereotype
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                      duran works his way in with head movement and the jab, ricky just tries to duck or rush his way in for the most part. duran also actually tries to block some return fire.

                      mayweather also held A LOT in that fight. Hatton is not as strong as duran either- at all.

                      just because guys like to put their head in another guy's chest and throw punches doesn't mean they should be compared.
                      Actually, I'm starting to see the Hatton-Duran comparison more and more. Obviously - OBVIOUSLY - a different class of fighter, but Hatton does try to get out of the way of return fire. He had really quick reflexes and he could usually rely on his athleticism to get him out of the way of punches. It's why Floyd couldn't miss him. Same thing happened with Hamed and Barrera. You can't just rely on athleticism against a world class fighter. But I would argue that Hatton is stronger than Duran. He was freakishly strong at 140 and still very strong at 147. Floyd was just more skilled on the inside and Ricky couldn't turn him.

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