D.Rafael: "Floyd would TOY with Tito Trinidad and he would beat JCC as well"

[studentofthegam]

Yes he did, you know shit.

You didnt say against who. No huge lefts against Oscar. None against Bhop. Thats the cream. Maybe you mean Vargas. He wasnt sorry or anything just overrated.

c'mon man. just stop you are completely out of control.

on the flip side, jcc would be BY FAR the best fighter floyd ever faced.

I can agree to that but De la Hoya trumps Trinidad even at that point in his career. Corrales rivals a bout with Trinidad too. The difference between Chavez and Baldo is size and JCC would slip a punch and return fire at times. A little faster. Good fighter not one Floyd would have to fear.

Tito had dynamic power in both hands, wasn't the fastest but wasn't slow either, had a good jab, wasn't a defensive genius but could slip a punches well, Tito skills get underrated. JCC skills get vastly underrated as well...People think flashiness equals skills and that's not the case. That is why some people think Oscar De la Hoya had more skills than JCC when he didn't and wasn't even close to it.

At 147 Tito has a better chance than JCC does at 147.

But, JCC has a better chance at 135 and 140 than Tito has at 147.

I think Floyd could really easily outbox JCC at 130 and 147.

But, at 135 and 140 Floyd would have his hands full with JCC and I would personally give the edge to JCC. I think he breaks Floyd down. I LOL'd at somebody putting the Baldomir comparison to make their case of Floyd would beat JCC.

At 147 I think Tito-Floyd is a 50-50...Floyd doesn't really let his hands go, pot shots a lot, but also got tagged at 147 you just can't get hit by Tito. Not only is he a dynamic puncher both hands but very accurate and a very good finisher. Better than Judah and Mosley.

At 154 I don't see Floyd beating Tito at all.

But, with Tito is weird because is not fair to Floyd. That is Tito first weight-class while it's Floyd 4th weight-class.

But, Floyd could still win but to say he toys or outboxes their ear off easily and all that crap is ridiculous. Floyd hasn't shown anything in those weight-classes against high caliber opponents that could make anybody say he would toy with either one.

That is where Floyd and his skills get vastly overrated. Because, even if he wins it won't be easy.

One thing I always site is the fact that Floyd will exploit you if your balance is flawed. Trinidad was an emotional fighter which helped against a certain type of fighter and hurt against accurate technicians. Mostly because he would follow a fighter around and square his feet up to throw combos.

This all will be easier for us to discuss without yall gettin pissy once you admit that Floyd is one of the best ever. Its not unimaginable fellas.

[IronDanHamza]

You didnt say against who. No huge lefts against Oscar. None against Bhop. Thats the cream. Maybe you mean Vargas. He wasnt sorry or anything just overrated.

I can agree to that but De la Hoya trumps Trinidad even at that point in his career. Corrales rivals a bout with Trinidad too. The difference between Chavez and Baldo is size and JCC would slip a punch and return fire at times. A little faster. Good fighter not one Floyd would have to fear.



One thing I always site is the fact that Floyd will exploit you if your balance is flawed. Trinidad was an emotional fighter which helped against a certain type of fighter and hurt against accurate technicians. Mostly because he would follow a fighter around and square his feet up to throw combos.

This all will be easier for us to discuss without yall gettin pissy once you admit that Floyd is one of the best ever. Its not unimaginable fellas.

STOP. You NEED to stop.

[Canelo Phresh]

dan cant more indecisive. floyd ducked margo and cotto but would walk through tito? tito whips cheato and cotto easily

[studentofthegam]

I personally think Mayweather's best weight was at 140, everything seemed so balanced out at that weight class.

Yeah I wish it was worth it for him to stay a while. He had to get the money

[studentofthegam]

STOP. You NEED to stop.

Wouldnt you say Baldo was naturally a bigger man? Be specific or it hard to reply. Just say whay you're feeling. Let it out.

[Tamis!]

Wouldnt you say Baldo was naturally a bigger man? Be specific or it hard to reply. Just say whay you're feeling. Let it out.

Yup, he's not stopping

[IronDanHamza]

Wouldnt you say Baldo was naturally a bigger man? Be specific or it hard to reply. Just say whay you're feeling. Let it out.

Yes, I would.

Would I say the only different between Baldomir and Chavez is size? ****ing no.

Would I even compare Baldomir in any way, shape or form to an ATG like Chavez? Absolutely not.

Even then, regardless to the insanely wide difference in quality, they don't fight REMOTELY the same.

[Walt Liquor]

You didnt say against who. No huge lefts against Oscar. None against Bhop. Thats the cream. Maybe you mean Vargas. He wasnt sorry or anything just overrated.

I can agree to that but De la Hoya trumps Trinidad even at that point in his career. Corrales rivals a bout with Trinidad too. The difference between Chavez and Baldo is size and JCC would slip a punch and return fire at times. A little faster. Good fighter not one Floyd would have to fear.



One thing I always site is the fact that Floyd will exploit you if your balance is flawed. Trinidad was an emotional fighter which helped against a certain type of fighter and hurt against accurate technicians. Mostly because he would follow a fighter around and square his feet up to throw combos.

This all will be easier for us to discuss without yall gettin pissy once you admit that Floyd is one of the best ever. Its not unimaginable fellas.

I just can't take you seriously anymore.

for starters, Jc Jr has about 90 knockouts, tata about 15- jcc has about 90% ko percentage, tata has about 25%. other than that, you are a straight fool and can't be considered a shred credible.


floyd COULD be one of the best ever, but to do that he would actually have to prove it. there is no sport in the world where you can be considered amongst the best ever with so many ?'s surrounding your opposition.

[Walt Liquor]

You didnt say against who. No huge lefts against Oscar. None against Bhop. Thats the cream. Maybe you mean Vargas. He wasnt sorry or anything just overrated.

I can agree to that but De la Hoya trumps Trinidad even at that point in his career. Corrales rivals a bout with Trinidad too. The difference between Chavez and Baldo is size and JCC would slip a punch and return fire at times. A little faster. Good fighter not one Floyd would have to fear.

this didn't even register at first becuz you blew me away with the jcc-tata comparison.

Corrales
DeLa Hoya 7 yrs past his prime will never ever trump a prime tito at 147.

[studentofthegam]

Yes, I would.

Would I say the only different between Baldomir and Chavez is size? ****ing no.

Would I even compare Baldomir in any way, shape or form to an ATG like Chavez? Absolutely not.

Even then, regardless to the insanely wide difference in quality, they don't fight REMOTELY the same.

Did you read the next two sentences. There are more differences. Youre not specific. You dont read thorouhgly so how can you debate issues. Call your buddies back and maybe collectively yall will come up with something.