D.Rafael: "Floyd would TOY with Tito Trinidad and he would beat JCC as well"

[RubenSonny]

Id favour both over him,they are simply greater fighters

Good explanation, you know-nothing dip****.

Whitaker had to fight on the inside to beat JCC. I think Floyd would outpoint JCC but it wouldnt be easy.

Also JCC was not prime when he fought Whitaker. When u study his fights u see him not being able to fight as hard for as long when he fought Pea and The Surgeon.

Absolutely right, Whitaker got the better of the in-fighting and this isn't a prime JCC were stalking about the WW version against Floyd.

[studentofthegam]

After seeing how Jesus Chavez and Castilio were so effective with thier pressure, i have a tough time choosing Mayweather over a lightweight Chavez or Duran with confidence. People also forget that Trinidad was a very dominate welterweight with wins over some of the best technical boxers of his time.

Didnt he stop Jesus.

Trinidad would have been to much for Mayweather. Floyd may be the master of defense but Trinidad had legendary stamina as well and eventually he would land one of those devastating left hooks. There was a reason why De la hoya ran those last 4 rounds.

You mean the left hook that took forever to get there. He didnt land huge left hooks against the cream of the crop. I think all of our underlying arguing relates to whether Floyd is the best fighter JCC or Trinidad has faced and I say yes he is.

[jrosales13]

Didnt he stop Jesus.


You mean the left hook that took forever to get there. He didnt land huge left hooks against the cream of the crop. I think all of our underlying arguing relates to whether Floyd is the best fighter JCC or Trinidad has faced and I say yes he is.

Yes he did, you know shit.

[Walt Liquor]

Didnt he stop Jesus.


You mean the left hook that took forever to get there. He didnt land huge left hooks against the cream of the crop. I think all of our underlying arguing relates to whether Floyd is the best fighter JCC or Trinidad has faced and I say yes he is.

c'mon man. just stop you are completely out of control.

on the flip side, jcc would be BY FAR the best fighter floyd ever faced.

[Walt Liquor]

Didnt he stop Jesus.


You mean the left hook that took forever to get there. He didnt land huge left hooks against the cream of the crop. I think all of our underlying arguing relates to whether Floyd is the best fighter JCC or Trinidad has faced and I say yes he is.

best fighter trinidad ever faced?

negative as well.

[jrosales13]

Tito had dynamic power in both hands, wasn't the fastest but wasn't slow either, had a good jab, wasn't a defensive genius but could slip a punches well, Tito skills get underrated. JCC skills get vastly underrated as well...People think flashiness equals skills and that's not the case. That is why some people think Oscar De la Hoya had more skills than JCC when he didn't and wasn't even close to it.

At 147 Tito has a better chance than JCC does at 147.

But, JCC has a better chance at 135 and 140 than Tito has at 147.

I think Floyd could really easily outbox JCC at 130 and 147.

But, at 135 and 140 Floyd would have his hands full with JCC and I would personally give the edge to JCC. I think he breaks Floyd down. I LOL'd at somebody putting the Baldomir comparison to make their case of Floyd would beat JCC.

At 147 I think Tito-Floyd is a 50-50...Floyd doesn't really let his hands go, pot shots a lot, but also got tagged at 147 you just can't get hit by Tito. Not only is he a dynamic puncher both hands but very accurate and a very good finisher. Better than Judah and Mosley.

At 154 I don't see Floyd beating Tito at all.

But, with Tito is weird because is not fair to Floyd. That is Tito first weight-class while it's Floyd 4th weight-class.

But, Floyd could still win but to say he toys or outboxes their ear off easily and all that crap is ridiculous. Floyd hasn't shown anything in those weight-classes against high caliber opponents that could make anybody say he would toy with either one.

That is where Floyd and his skills get vastly overrated. Because, even if he wins it won't be easy.

[Steak]

dude. you don't know what you're talking about....mayweather sr. has a similar defensive style to floyd. not roger....infact roger is the exact opposite of floyd defensively. if just going by fighting styles they don't even look related. why in the hell am i even arguing something so farfetched whoohahaha it's quite obvious that you haven't studied these guys.....

again I see chavez getting outboxed quite easily...I had the 1st castillio bout a draw (with mayweather having a torn rotator cup) & the 2nd one a comfortable UD.

i just see chavez getting outboxed, frustrated, & beaten....

sorry bro.

Mayweather Sr taught the style to both Jr and Roger. All three of them had similiar defensive styles. Roger and Sr both developed Jr's defense. The fact you say theres no simularity is alarmingly dumb

Hello. That clip is of Roger not Lil Floyd. Roger changed that style up because he didnt have the reflexes.



Dont throw Im not a Chavez fan in to mask the hate. Chavez would be lucky to make it look like the Baldomir fight. He was slow and stalked too. Compubox would have had a new record for connect percentage.

obviously that video is of Roger, I was showing how Roger could effetively use a similiar style to Jr. and he only changed that style up late in his career. during one of his best winning streaks at 140lbs he kept that style, and even was nicknamed the 'Mexican Assassin' for a while since he did so well against Mexican styles.

simply laughable. Lucky to make it look like the Baldomir fight? Chavez was multiple times better than Baldomir. He was one of the best ever at effectively and efficiently cutting off the ring, this wasnt stalking.


I know Im debating with two blinded Mayweather fans here, but yall could at least attempt to make well informed arguments. If Floyd couldnt keep Castillo off of him, theres no way he could do so with Chavez. If Floyd coldnt deal with all of Castillo's body shots and infighting, theres no way he could have done so with Chavez.

You mean the left hook that took forever to get there. He didnt land huge left hooks against the cream of the crop. I think all of our underlying arguing relates to whether Floyd is the best fighter JCC or Trinidad has faced and I say yes he is

would JCC or Trinidad be the best fighter Floyd had ever faced?
Absolutlely yes.

[Walt Liquor]

Floyd wont beat any of them..Floyd hasnt fought anyone as good as Trinidad or JCC..if we are talking about a p4p king trinidad and a p4p king jcc in their respective best weight, i highly doubt FLoyd would even get away with a split decision..until i see floyd fighting a prime or close to a prime boxers in their best weight i wouldnt pick Floyd to win.

Trinidad was a beast in a welterweight..the best Welter Floyd ever fought was a 38 yr old Mosley.

this is sooooo true. you forgot coming off a 16 month layoff

[jrosales13]

Seriously to compare JCC and Baldomir just shows the ******ity that runs in this forum.

I don't know what gam(e) you're a student of. But, start studying boxing son...You're embarrassing yourself with idiotic comparisons.

[Walt Liquor]

chavez would be lucky to make it look like the baldomir fight??????????????????????????????????