simple question to all floyd fans

[iNDOLiFER]

I'd respond but it's clear you haven't read a single post i've made, otherwise you'd see how little sense your statement makes.

Your original post was basically saying, as long as my favorite fighter wins i don't care how he does it. Really you don't want to see Pac win you want to see Mayweather lose.

Me? I want to see a fight between 2 boxer and know that it was better training, hardwork, and dedication that got them the win and not have to wonder about who's on what.

**** Pacquiao. **** Mayweather. The Sport of Boxing needs better testing to protect the fighters that risk their lives to entertain us. Sure they get paid the big bucks, but that doesn't mean they should be sent out and risk their lives in a battle that just might not be fair.

but see with your post u're already accusing manny of being on something without proof.. why would u wonder if both fighters are clean or not? Both of them have never been caught using anything so why would u even think like that.. both of them are clean, whoever is the better man will win, plain and simple.. u can take all the peds u want but if the other guy is truely better than u then it wont do u any good..

[jrosales13]

this i agreed!! why not push to have random blood testing done for all fighters before each of their match?? this way there wont be any crying about it..

One because, one of the main stars on the sport doesn't really wanted for whatever reason. Two promoters doesn't seem to wanted for whatever reason, three commissions don't seem to wanted for whatever reason.

However, a fight between the 2 biggest stars on the sport could change a lot of perception. It did it with Tyson-Holyfield. Where there no steroid test before that. None at all believe it or not. Tyson asked Holyfield to take it. Holy did and that was the precedent to the drug testing we have now...It was caused by 2 major stars in the sport at that time.

You kind of see where I'm going with this?

Right now taking PED's is illegal, and I think maybe it should be legalized and we don't have to worry about this. And, everybody will be on a level playing field. There are other performance enhancers that are legal and can buy at GNC.

But, as long as it is illegal bro. We should have the best testing available don't you think? And, WADA even though is not perfect and I still think there are Olympians who have year around testing that is still cheating and beating the system. Because, lets face the cheaters will always be ahead of the testers. But, still WADA is the best thing we have going right now for anti doping testing. And, the one thing I like about WADA is that they will store your blood. So if there is a drug out there that is not detectable right now. It could be detectable years from now.

For example I will use Floyd and Mosley since they went to that process. Everything came out clean to what WADA test for. But, maybe in 8 years or whatever we find out about a new drug. And, WADA would test Mosley and Floyd blood for it and then we might find out that oh Mosley was on this or oh Floyd was on this. That is the cool thing about WADA.

And, what could be the biggest fight of all time, between the 2 biggest boxing stars right now could be the precedent for WADA to get into boxing. That is only a good thing bro. But, unlike Tyson-Holyfield which set the precedent for their time. it seems like no precedent will be set for this era. And, that is because one fighter wants a cutoff for whatever reason...It kind of sucks really if you think about it.

[iNDOLiFER]

i dont agree on the taking peds should be legalized part but i do feel that if random blood testing is such a big deal now then why not just have this as a regular thing to do... this way every fighter will know that they will get tested and there wont be any issues with it... like pacman said on the 1st negotiation that he would have no problem with the random blood testing if it was apart of the boxing rules... now whether pacman is telling the truth or not, if random blood testing is what a fighter have to go through from now on then there wont be any excuses...

[MtClimber]

Mayweathers suspect Pac is on PEDs. They dont' accept the cutoff days counter-offered by Pac team because they knew there is/are PED(s) that will go out of the system immediately.

Questions:
1. So Mayweathers really knew for real that there are PEDs that goes out quickly?

2. They must knew this specific type of PED if we relate it to number 1? Can we ask them what it is so that the commission will be alerted on it?

3. How did they knew there are these type of PEDs? In search to become a superboxer or superman? They're boxing experts, not nutritional expert, right? Or maybe they have some experts in their team? Or from articles just like a-side meth?

4. Why they have to know about these type of PEDs? To be feed to their cats and dogs?

5. Mayweathers seems to be very sure 100% that there are PEDs that work that way. So if you're 100%, there must be some test subjects on it to prove it. I wonder who are those test subjects are, maybe a scorpions from Alaska or penguins from Saudi Arabia?

6. How effective is that kind of PED that goes out your body very quickly? Can you punch harder or move quicker than normal because of it?

Just asking......

[IMDAZED]

Mayweathers suspect Pac is on PEDs. They dont' accept the cutoff days counter-offered by Pac team because they knew there is/are PED(s) that will go out of the system immediately.

Questions:
1. So Mayweathers really knew for real that there are PEDs that goes out quickly?
2. They must knew this specific type of PED if we relate it to number 1? Can we ask them what it is so that the commission will be alerted on it?
3. How did they knew there are these type of PEDs? They're boxing experts, not nutritional expert, right? Or maybe they have some experts in their team? Or from articles just like a-side meth?
4. Why they have to know about these type of PEDs? To be feed to their cats and dogs?
5. Mayweathers seems to be very sure 100% that there are PEDs that work that way. So if you're 100%, there must be some test subjects on it to prove it. I wonder who are those test subjects are, maybe a scorpions from Alaska or penguins from Saudi Arabia?
6. How effective is that kind of PED that goes out your body very quickly? Can you punch harder or move quicker than normal because of it?

Just asking......

Yeah, the tests subjects are every single person subject to this testing. Thousands of athletes. There's your answer. FYI: Mayweather didn't create the testing, WADA did.

[jtiger78]

floyd n pac are jacob n esau

[MtClimber]

Yeah, the tests subjects are every single person subject to this testing. Thousands of athletes. There's your answer. FYI: Mayweather didn't create the testing, WADA did.

let's say the name of the PED is XYZ. Do you mean WADA uses XYZ on thousand of athletes and test them if the XYZ is still on them on certain amount of time?

[IMDAZED]

let's say the name of the PED is XYZ. Do you mean WADA uses XYZ on thousand of athletes and test them if the XYZ is still on them on certain amount of time?

It means they have doctors that know all about XYZ and thus, they know when to test. It's their job, by the way.

[jrosales13]

i dont agree on the taking peds should be legalized part but i do feel that if random blood testing is such a big deal now then why not just have this as a regular thing to do... this way every fighter will know that they will get tested and there wont be any issues with it... like pacman said on the 1st negotiation that he would have no problem with the random blood testing if it was apart of the boxing rules... now whether pacman is telling the truth or not, if random blood testing is what a fighter have to go through from now on then there wont be any excuses...

In the perfect world sure. But, really it will be hard without any precedent for it.

I mean Holy could of turned down Tyson request down...Which would then there will be no precedent and we probably wouldn't have any kind of drug testing now like it was pre Tyson-Holyfield.

I mean Hearns asked Leonard to do one. SRL said no and there wasn't any type of drug testing at all until Tyson-Holyfield happened. They set the precedent because it was the biggest fight at the time between 2 major stars at the time.

Floyd and Pac could also set that same kind of precedent bro. Where after this fight it could open the doors for blood testing for everybody. Just like Tyson-Holyfield did.

[» HE3R0 «]

One because, one of the main stars on the sport doesn't really wanted for whatever reason. Two promoters doesn't seem to wanted for whatever reason, three commissions don't seem to wanted for whatever reason.

However, a fight between the 2 biggest stars on the sport could change a lot of perception. It did it with Tyson-Holyfield. Where there no steroid test before that. None at all believe it or not. Tyson asked Holyfield to take it. Holy did and that was the precedent to the drug testing we have now...It was caused by 2 major stars in the sport at that time.

You kind of see where I'm going with this?

Right now taking PED's is illegal, and I think maybe it should be legalized and we don't have to worry about this. And, everybody will be on a level playing field. There are other performance enhancers that are legal and can buy at GNC.

But, as long as it is illegal bro. We should have the best testing available don't you think? And, WADA even though is not perfect and I still think there are Olympians who have year around testing that is still cheating and beating the system. Because, lets face the cheaters will always be ahead of the testers. But, still WADA is the best thing we have going right now for anti doping testing. And, the one thing I like about WADA is that they will store your blood. So if there is a drug out there that is not detectable right now. It could be detectable years from now.

For example I will use Floyd and Mosley since they went to that process. Everything came out clean to what WADA test for. But, maybe in 8 years or whatever we find out about a new drug. And, WADA would test Mosley and Floyd blood for it and then we might find out that oh Mosley was on this or oh Floyd was on this. That is the cool thing about WADA.

And, what could be the biggest fight of all time, between the 2 biggest boxing stars right now could be the precedent for WADA to get into boxing. That is only a good thing bro. But, unlike Tyson-Holyfield which set the precedent for their time. it seems like no precedent will be set for this era. And, that is because one fighter wants a cutoff for whatever reason...It kind of sucks really if you think about it.

Any ideas on why (or it seems like) anyone from both camps haven't tried bringing hair analysis into the discussion?

It would certainly take away any of manny's previous qualms. Unless someone here can already bring up a video of him in an interview after the Singsurat loss claiming it was his haircut that led to the defeat.