Comments Thread For: Klitschko: Either Haye Fights Me on July 2, Or It's Dead!

[LeadUppercut]

Yeah but if he wants the fight so bad like he claimed 3 years ago when he accosted Wlad on the escalator he can simple not retire for 2 month and fight Wlad in December which should be plenty of time to promote and train after Wlad's Adamek fight should he win and still be champ.

You would think so.

Haye's self-imposed retirement is his problem, and will not be an acceptable excuse to avoid a unification bout before he retires.

Initially, I would have bet you my house that Haye will collect that retirement payday, but recently, Haye has mentioned his retirement during every single interview, and he has repeatedly claimed that he will retire in October regardless of the situation with K2.

That sucks. His retirement situation does not rate as justification to me.

But like I say, Wlad is aware that Haye has stated that he will not be fighting after October this year, so I would have thought that he would have gone out of his way to remove any perceived obstacles, so that if the fight doesn't get made, it will obviously be because Haye didn't want the fight.

Put it this way.....
If Wlad does not force the issue, and Haye walks away from boxing, Wlad will regret that EVERY SINGLE DAY for the rest of his life, because he will have no way of shutting Haye up, short of putting a bullet in him

You just know that if the fight doesn't happen, and Wlad has Chisora/Adamek pencilled in, then Haye will state that Wlad ducked him.

[Porter's Dad]

Oh and Wlad should not be dictated to by an artificial, arbitrary retirement date set by that fool. That's Haye's problem.

[LeadUppercut]

I've lost all interest in this fight. I mean, it's not even like a Pac v Floyd fight, where despite all the bull****, it would be a worth it in the end because of the historical significance of it.

It was gonna be a potentially interesting, exciting fight but Haye's antics have just ****** all the anticipation out of it for me. No-one can come up with a credible reason why Haye won't sign to fight on July 2.

"Oh oh oh but but but there's not enough time for Wlad to recover after the Chisora fight!!!!"

Well, that's Wlad problems, not Haye's.

Roll on October so we don't have to bother with this guy anymore.

ahahh yep it's damn frustrating.

I got left out in the cold a little bit, because I missed a number of Wlad/Haye threads over the Xmas / New Year period, and I kinda lost touch with what was happening. But I agree, it's getting harder and harder to get up for this fight.

But if it get's signed, I suspect that both you and me will be keen to go

[Chaos]

A 6-week camp ?

That is fkn absurd.

He would be a total fkn moron to take that fight.

Wlad should have contacted Haye late last year, and completely canned the Chisora fight. They could fight in April.

That would mean a 7 month layoff for Wlad, which should be fine, he only fights twice a year anyways.

Expecting to fit Haye in around Chisora seems silly in light of the situation.

In case you're unaware, Haye was MIA for a good portion of last year, not responding to any of K2's challenges. He only reappeared after both brothers had signed on to other fights and used that as an excuse to fight Audley.

[Chaos]

Who cares ?

That is not even relevant.

For every fight you can show me that was made on short notice, I can show a hundred that were not.

For starters, we are talking 9 weeks here, not 11.

Haye is a fkn moron if he takes that fight without opportunity for a full camp, and without 3-4 weeks promotional work. This is not about shuffling around a couple of US cities, this is a truly international fight.

Sorry, but Haye is unreasonable, and he is the main reason why this fight has been so difficult to make..... so your expectation that he should just STFU and accept a real **** sandwich of an offer, is ridiculous.

And Wlad is well aware of that IMHO.

Haye publicly stated - unreasonably or not - that he will retire in Oct 2011.

Wlad knows this.

So, he chose to fight Chisora, and then started talking about Adamek later in the year? Why would Wlad respond to Haye's self-imposed early retirement date, by filling up his calendar?

This has been explained many times but you seem to just ignore facts. First of all, Adamek is not signed to fight Wlad, he's signed to fight whichever brother is available. If Wlad fights Haye, then Adamek fight Vit. Get it now?
Also, who says there isn't time for Haye to have a full training camp, the fight is in July and it's February right now. You're saying 5 months isn't enough?

[cklmaced]

This has been explained many times but you seem to just ignore facts. First of all, Adamek is not signed to fight Wlad, he's signed to fight whichever brother is available. If Wlad fights Haye, then Adamek fight Vit. Get it now?
Also, who says there isn't time for Haye to have a full training camp, the fight is in July and it's February right now. You're saying 5 months isn't enough?

Explain this moron why offer only July 2nd? as you said only a brother is signed to fight Adamak. So why can't they fight at a time that suits both fighters.

[Chaos]

Explain this moron why offer only July 2nd? as you said only a brother is signed to fight Adamak. So why can't they fight at a time that suits both fighters.

Both sides had agreed to the July 2nd date, then Haye pulled out citing his usual excuses. And July wasn't the only date, they initially wanted April but Haye didn't have enough clout with Sky to secure a date in April. Get it, MORON?

[cklmaced]

Both sides had agreed to the July 2nd date, then Haye pulled out citing his usual excuses. And July wasn't the only date, they initially wanted April but Haye didn't have enough clout with Sky to secure a date in April. Get it, MORON?

I meant now he said this today or yesterday or whenever so why does it have to be July 2nd or nothing.

[LeadUppercut]

In case you're unaware, Haye was MIA for a good portion of last year, not responding to any of K2's challenges. He only reappeared after both brothers had signed on to other fights and used that as an excuse to fight Audley.

Good point, he was too.

But that was earlier in the year I think ?

During Nov/Dec there was communication between the two teams.

In Nov, why didn't Wlad suggest April for a Haye fight, and forget Chisora ?

Don't get me wrong here, I think that Haye is the major reason why this fight has been so difficult to make, but right now the clock is winding down on Haye's career due to his self-imposed retirement, and Wlad is well-aware of that fact.

I just think that playing hardball with Haye, is the wrong approach if Wlad is genuinely attempting to entice Haye into the ring.

But yep, I agree, they may need to drag him there kicking and screaming

[Chaos]

I meant now he said this today or yesterday or whenever so why does it have to be July 2nd or nothing.

Why the hell shouldn't it be July 2nd? BOTH SIDES HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO THE DATE The negotiations are completed. The stadium is reserved. Everything is done. Then, unsurprisingly, Haye decides to pull out. Now they should change everything so that Haye can come up with a new excuse next time?