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  • LeadUppercut
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    #111
    Originally posted by jknightx
    I think everyone has forgotten that Holmes signed to fight Tyson with about just 11 weeks untill fight date.They trained and promoted the fight in about 10-11 weeks.and that fight had not been talked about for 2 years befor hand
    Who cares ?

    That is not even relevant.

    For every fight you can show me that was made on short notice, I can show a hundred that were not.

    For starters, we are talking 9 weeks here, not 11.

    Haye is a fkn moron if he takes that fight without opportunity for a full camp, and without 3-4 weeks promotional work. This is not about shuffling around a couple of US cities, this is a truly international fight.

    Sorry, but Haye is unreasonable, and he is the main reason why this fight has been so difficult to make..... so your expectation that he should just STFU and accept a real **** sandwich of an offer, is ridiculous.

    And Wlad is well aware of that IMHO.

    Haye publicly stated - unreasonably or not - that he will retire in Oct 2011.

    Wlad knows this.

    So, he chose to fight Chisora, and then started talking about Adamek later in the year? Why would Wlad respond to Haye's self-imposed early retirement date, by filling up his calendar?

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    • jknightx
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      #112
      Originally posted by LeadUppercut
      Who cares ?

      That is not even relevant.

      For every fight you can show me that was made on short notice, I can show a hundred that were not.

      For starters, we are talking 9 weeks here, not 11.

      Haye is a fkn moron if he takes that fight without opportunity for a full camp, and without 3-4 weeks promotional work. This is not about shuffling around a couple of US cities, this is a truly international fight.

      Sorry, but Haye is unreasonable, and he is the main reason why this fight has been so difficult to make..... so your expectation that he should just STFU and accept a real **** sandwich of an offer, is ridiculous.

      And Wlad is well aware of that IMHO.

      Haye publicly stated - unreasonably or not - that he will retire in Oct 2011.

      Wlad knows this.

      So, he chose to fight Chisora, and then started talking about Adamek later in the year? Why would Wlad respond to Haye's self-imposed early retirement date, by filling up his calendar?
      IT is relevent it shows that a big fight does not need 15 weeks to promote.And what is not relevent it when Haye chooses to retire,that is Hayes business.The Wlad Haye fight basically been promoted for 2 years now.And if Wlad is willing to have only a 9 week training and do the promotion in that amount of time why isn't Haye? And the fight promotion would start as soon as the fight is signed.And if Wlad happen to lose to Chisora(unlikely) Haye could do just like Wlad did when Haye pulled out of thier fight 2 years ago.Of course I doubt Haye would pick a fellow Champion for replacement like Wlad did(Chagaev was the WBA champ and undefeated at that time) SO NO MORE 9WEEKS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME BALONEY. Wlad did it so can Haye.
      Last edited by jknightx; 02-06-2011, 07:52 PM.

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      • LeadUppercut
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        #113
        Originally posted by jknightx
        IT is relevent it shows that a big fight does not need 15 weeks to promote.And what is not relevent it when Haye chooses to retire,that is Hayes business.The Wlad Haye fight basically been promoted for 2 years now.And if Wlad is willing to have only a 9 week training and do the promotion in that amount of time why isn't Haye? And the fight promotion would start as soon as the fight is signed.And if Wlad happen to lose to Chisora(unlikely) Haye could do just like Wlad did when Haye pulled out of thier fight 2 years ago.Of course I doubt Haye would pick a fellow Champion for replacement like Wlad did(Chagaev was the WBA champ and undefeatedat that time) SO NO MORE 9WEEKS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME BALONEY. Wlad did it so can Haye.
        Bro, I agree with that point, and I also agree with your sentiment, Haye is the main reason why this fight hasn't been made.....

        ..... but imho Haye would be insane for accepting those terms.

        We will have to agree to disagree.

        That fight requires 12-14 weeks minimum, to promote and adequately prepare.

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        • makeMeSushiRoll
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          #114
          It is really getting worse and worse, but I don't care so much anymore, if the fight happens ... great... if not... no big deal... But think about it why should Wlad dodge Haye?? Wlad did not cancel the first fight, it was Haye. So he was not afraid before the first fight, but now after Haye's 'glorious performances' vs Nikolai 'The Stationary Target' Valuev, a shot J.Ruiz with 8 losses and the masterpiece vs GOAT Audley Harrison Wlad should be afraid???

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            #115
            Originally posted by LeadUppercut
            Who cares ?

            That is not even relevant.

            For every fight you can show me that was made on short notice, I can show a hundred that were not.

            For starters, we are talking 9 weeks here, not 11.

            Haye is a fkn moron if he takes that fight without opportunity for a full camp, and without 3-4 weeks promotional work. This is not about shuffling around a couple of US cities, this is a truly international fight.

            Sorry, but Haye is unreasonable, and he is the main reason why this fight has been so difficult to make..... so your expectation that he should just STFU and accept a real **** sandwich of an offer, is ridiculous.

            And Wlad is well aware of that IMHO.

            Haye publicly stated - unreasonably or not - that he will retire in Oct 2011.

            Wlad knows this.

            So, he chose to fight Chisora, and then started talking about Adamek later in the year? Why would Wlad respond to Haye's self-imposed early retirement date, by filling up his calendar?
            Yeah but if he wants the fight so bad like he claimed 3 years ago when he accosted Wlad on the escalator he can simple not retire for 2 month and fight Wlad in December which should be plenty of time to promote and train after Wlad's Adamek fight should he win and still be champ.

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            • boxer2k5
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              #116
              Originally posted by lfc19titles
              wtf you have a fight arranged 9 weeks before july 2nd, only ******ed haters or nut huggers will back you. anyone else can see wlad is full of crap and a liar, 9 weeks i not enough to rest, promote and train for a fight
              this fight dont need no more hype plus 3 months is plenty of time

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #117
                Originally posted by makeMeSushiRoll
                It is really getting worse and worse, but I don't care so much anymore, if the fight happens ... great... if not... no big deal... But think about it why should Wlad dodge Haye?? Wlad did not cancel the first fight, it was Haye. So he was not afraid before the first fight, but now after Haye's 'glorious performances' vs Nikolai 'The Stationary Target' Valuev, a shot J.Ruiz with 8 losses and the masterpiece vs GOAT Audley Harrison Wlad should be afraid???
                I agree.

                It makes absolutely no sense at all that Wlad would be " scared " of Haye.

                But then again, it makes no sense at all that Mayweather would be "scared" of Pacquiao, and we have all read the "expert analysis" on that subject

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                • jknightx
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  Bro, I agree with that point, and I also agree with your sentiment, Haye is the main reason why this fight hasn't been made.....

                  ..... but imho Haye would be insane for accepting those terms.

                  We will have to agree to disagree.

                  That fight requires 12-14 weeks minimum, to promote and adequately prepare.
                  Ok LeadUppercut I can agree to disagree,and yes it nice to have a long lead into the fight(I just don't believe it is necessary).But I think also would give Haye a better shot to defeat Wlad if Chisora proves much tougher than people believe. Well I guess usd argueing will not change anything anyway.Wlad will do what he wants and HAYE WILL DO WHAT HE WANTS.At least will have Vitali vs Solis to look forward too.
                  Last edited by jknightx; 02-06-2011, 08:32 PM.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by jknightx
                    So what if he was ? He had agreed to fight Haye on july 2nd.The fact is no matter what reasons you give,it was Haye in the end who canceled the fight on july 2nd, witch was the date both parties had already agreed too.
                    Hey, I agree that Haye is not making this easy either ..... So what if they had July 2nd date .... things have changed since then ..... so to say that is the only date that Hayes can choose, Vladimir is making it just as difficult to get this fight made.

                    If you give the other 2 guys what they want while Haye can't maneuver from that date, I question Vladimir wanting the Hayes fight, as he has stated, BADLY!
                    Last edited by ADP02; 02-06-2011, 08:41 PM.

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                    • Porter's Dad
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                      #120
                      I've lost all interest in this fight. I mean, it's not even like a Pac v Floyd fight, where despite all the bull****, it would be a worth it in the end because of the historical significance of it.

                      It was gonna be a potentially interesting, exciting fight but Haye's antics have just ****** all the anticipation out of it for me. No-one can come up with a credible reason why Haye won't sign to fight on July 2.

                      "Oh oh oh but but but there's not enough time for Wlad to recover after the Chisora fight!!!!"

                      Well, that's Wlad problems, not Haye's.

                      Roll on October so we don't have to bother with this guy anymore.

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