Berto vs. Williams. Should this fight be made????

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  • ny123
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    #31
    Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
    But why do ya'll think this fight cant be made for April or May? I say to hell with a soft touch for Paul. He's been known to fight whoever, why change up and show folks otherwise. Duran fought Hearns right after Hagler. Why cant Paul miss a soft touch and go for the gusto right now?
    Williams would take this fight no doubt asap but Berto would never accept it. I dont blame Berto or his team for not taking dangerous fights when HBO allows him to take on jrww's and journeymen for big money.

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      #32
      Originally posted by ny123
      I think the fact that he thinks it was a lucky punch that stopped him shows that his confidence will still be intact. If Williams was going against a big puncher like Pavlik in his next fight i would have the same concern you are showing but againt Berto nah he beats the breaks off that hype job jrww killer.
      Berto is a hype-job, I agree, but Berto is still an untested fighter at this 'level', for all we know he could in-fact be the real deal, and there is still the possibility of him beating Williams' to a pulp. We won't know that until he actually fights elite fighters, but it's not totally out of the question.

      Berto may not be the biggest puncher, but in his recent fights he's shown he definitely packs a punch and Martinez wasn't exactly known as a one-punch KO artists before his Williams' KO. Williams may think he got caught with a punch he didn't see, but he's been caught with punches he hasn't seen in the past and was able to absorb the power, again the point about punch-resistance.




      Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
      But why do ya'll think this fight cant be made for April or May? I say to hell with a soft touch for Paul. He's been known to fight whoever, why change up and show folks otherwise. Duran fought Hearns right after Hagler. Why cant Paul miss a soft touch and go for the gusto right now?

      Williams got flattened, mate. Duran lost a close decision to Hagler, he didn't exactly get Knocked Out, unconscious. There is a big difference.

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        #33
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        Originally posted by Stones!
        Berto is a hype-job, I agree, but Berto is still an untested fighter at this 'level', for all we know he could in-fact be the real deal, and there is still the possibility of him beating Williams' to a pulp. We won't know that until he actually fights elite fighters, but it's not totally out of the question.

        Berto may not be the biggest puncher, but in his recent fights he's shown he definitely packs a punch and Martinez wasn't exactly known as a one-punch KO artists before his Williams' KO. Williams may think he got caught with a punch he didn't see, but he's been caught with punches he hasn't seen in the past and was able to absorb the power, again the point about punch-resistance.





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        I have seen him against one solid fighter(Collazo) and he went life and death with him and couldnt hurt him enough to stop him from coming. Ever since then for some strange reason his team have put him in there with cab drivers and jrww's.

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        • FloydTBE
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          #34
          would berto move to 154lbs, would pwill come down t 147lbs. questions need be asked

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          • Chief2ndzOnly!
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            #35
            Originally posted by tito_bandito
            This is dumb...very ****** idea...Williams is a 154 - 160 pounder and we saw what he was able to do when he made a weight that suits his physique...LMAO TIMBBEERRRRR
            He's got pretty much just as many fights at WW as he does at JMW.

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            • Chief2ndzOnly!
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              #36
              Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
              would berto move to 154lbs, would pwill come down t 147lbs. questions need be asked
              Berto was willing to go to 154 for Cotto. Paul says his ideal weight is 147. Andre wouldn't have to go anywhere. But I see your point.

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              • Chief2ndzOnly!
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                #37
                Originally posted by Stones!
                Berto is a hype-job, I agree, but Berto is still an untested fighter at this 'level', for all we know he could in-fact be the real deal, and there is still the possibility of him beating Williams' to a pulp. We won't know that until he actually fights elite fighters, but it's not totally out of the question.

                Berto may not be the biggest puncher, but in his recent fights he's shown he definitely packs a punch and Martinez wasn't exactly known as a one-punch KO artists before his Williams' KO. Williams may think he got caught with a punch he didn't see, but he's been caught with punches he hasn't seen in the past and was able to absorb the power, again the point about punch-resistance.







                Williams got flattened, mate. Duran lost a close decision to Hagler, he didn't exactly get Knocked Out, unconscious. There is a big difference.
                I saw the fight Stones homie. I know. I also saw the Duran/Hagler fight, and it was a war. Sometimes a one shot starching early in a fight is less brutal than a 15 round slug fest. While I understand where you comin from, I say for the sake of a great match up, and the revival of one of Boxings best divisions this fight should happen.

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                  #38
                  I would like to see this but sadly Al Haymon fighters wont fight each other. To make it worse, I truly believe Al even encourages them not to call each other out.

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                  • Chief2ndzOnly!
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                    I would like to see this but sadly Al Haymon fighters wont fight each other. To make it worse, I truly believe Al even encourages them not to call each other out.
                    True indeed TR. I wish Al would get off of that *****, but he's always been that way.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
                      Berto was willing to go to 154 for Cotto. Paul says his ideal weight is 147. Andre wouldn't have to go anywhere. But I see your point.
                      Yeah, its like a crossroads, both willing to weigh in at whaever, but they never agree on an exact weight.

                      apart from the weight issue, it should be an easy fight to make

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