Why Roy Jones Jr. is the greatest 168lb-er ever

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  • mikeyh1015
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    #31
    Rjjr = GOAT

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    • Toney616
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      #32
      Originally posted by Roye'l
      Calzaghe fought these guys after Eubank from 1997 until 2005
      Branko Sobot,Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra,Robin Reid ,Rick Thornberry,David Starie,Omar Sheika,Richie Woodhall,Mario Veit,Will McIntyre,Charles Brewer,Miguel Angel Jimenez,Tocker Pudwill,Byron Mitchell,Mger Mkrtchyan,Kabary Salem,Mario Veit,Evans Ashira

      I'm so impressed at his well thought up ducking tactics
      The Eubank, Reid and Brewer wins were decent, the rest of those guys were not very good.

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      • Walt Liquor
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        #33
        Originally posted by Roye'l
        Calzaghe fought these guys after Eubank from 1997 until 2005
        Branko Sobot,Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra,Robin Reid ,Rick Thornberry,David Starie,Omar Sheika,Richie Woodhall,Mario Veit,Will McIntyre,Charles Brewer,Miguel Angel Jimenez,Tocker Pudwill,Byron Mitchell,Mger Mkrtchyan,Kabary Salem,Mario Veit,Evans Ashira

        I'm so impressed at his well thought up ducking tactics
        have you seen the guy's on roy's resume at 168 besides toney? shi t vinny paz's best days were at LW.

        Antione Byrd
        Bryant Brannon
        Eric Lucas
        Vinny Paz

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        • Steak
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          #34
          Originally posted by Roye'l
          Calzaghe fought these guys after Eubank from 1997 until 2005
          Branko Sobot,Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra,Robin Reid ,Rick Thornberry,David Starie,Omar Sheika,Richie Woodhall,Mario Veit,Will McIntyre,Charles Brewer,Miguel Angel Jimenez,Tocker Pudwill,Byron Mitchell,Mger Mkrtchyan,Kabary Salem,Mario Veit,Evans Ashira

          I'm so impressed at his well thought up ducking tactics
          the only good wins out of all of those are Reid, Woodhall, Brewer and Mitchell. everyone else was a nobody.

          that being said, Jones' second best win at 168 was probably Pazienza, so he doesnt have much going for him either other than Toney.

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            #35
            Originally posted by blackirish137
            the only good wins out of all of those are Reid, Woodhall, Brewer and Mitchell. everyone else was a nobody.

            that being said, Jones' second best win at 168 was probably Pazienza, so he doesnt have much going for him either other than Toney.
            Are 4 B level wins better than one A level win?

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #36
              Originally posted by IronMike.
              Are 4 B level wins better than one A level win?
              those aren't all his wins at 168, that's why.

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                #37
                Originally posted by IronMike.
                Are 4 B level wins better than one A level win?
                depends.

                are those 4 B level wins actually wins over Reid, Brewer, Woodhall, Mitchell, Bika, Kessler, and Lacy?
                because in that case, yes.
                although thats all Calzaghe has(well +Eubank)

                Im not going to totally ignore that Toney had weight problems leading to that fight, although I still obviously give Roy a ton of credit for the win.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by blackirish137
                  depends.

                  are those 4 B level wins actually wins over Reid, Brewer, Woodhall, Mitchell, Bika, Kessler, and Lacy?
                  because in that case, yes.
                  although thats all Calzaghe has(well +Eubank)

                  Im not going to totally ignore that Toney had weight problems leading to that fight, although I still obviously give Roy a ton of credit for the win.
                  It has to be ignored, if he didn't prepare properly then he only has himself to blame.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                    those aren't all his wins at 168, that's why.
                    I never said they were, I was thinking more as a general rule

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      depends.

                      are those 4 B level wins actually wins over Reid, Brewer, Woodhall, Mitchell, Bika, Kessler, and Lacy?
                      because in that case, yes.
                      although thats all Calzaghe has(well +Eubank)

                      Im not going to totally ignore that Toney had weight problems leading to that fight, although I still obviously give Roy a ton of credit for the win.
                      The Eubank win is hardly decent. Eubank took the fight on a couple weeks notice and was badly drained. Brewer was coming off a KO loss to Antwun Echols. Woodhall was a guy who got KO'ed by Keith Holmes. Byron Mitchell was Byron Mitchell. Sakio Bika is trash. It comes down to Lacy and Kessler IMO. Not good enough combined for Toney but based on longevity, Calzaghe gets the nod over Jones at 168.

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