Comments Thread For: Bradley's Free Agent Status Will Attract The Big Players

[Larry the boss]

doubt he leaves shaw

[victorythagr8]

Name 1 black fighter that Arum has promoted properly as of recent.

name 1 black fighter that has any potential to be great that arum currently has right now.

Now ask yourself this. Name 1 black fighter that GBP promoted from the ground up and made them a money maker.

[Heru]

I like you as a poster but that's a foolish comment given Arum's track record.

Dude was promoting Ali, in the 70's, when racism was really bad.

Also he promoted guys like Haglar, Leonard and just recently got options on Shane on top of trying to lure in Bradely.

You guys need to stop listening to Floyd and his b.s. victim rants. Floyd's style, while under Top Rank, and non-aggressive attittude is why he couldn't sell or do big numbers.

He had to swaggerjack Hamed's persona to get where he is at. Had nothing to do with Arum holding him back/not knowing how to promote black fighters/not willing to promote black fighters.

You serious man?

Do you know how huge a following Ali had developed before, during, and after his forced exile from boxing (all before Arum)? Arum wasn't promote the Fight of the Century, Rumble in the Jungle, and the Thrilla in Manila, so save the credit for those that deserve it (primarily Ali himself or Don King).

Giving Arum credit for promoting Ali and Leonard is like someone starting to promote De La Hoya now and you giving him credit for being a good promoter of Mexican fighters.

It's hard to separate who has an agenda from who doesn't, but if you're mistaking this with just some of Floyd's regurgitation, I don't know where you're coming from.

[Heru]

What does the year matter? You said Bob Arum doesn't know how to promote Black fighters and he does not want to. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Evander Holyfield, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, etc would all laugh in your face if they heard you say something that absolutely ******ed in their presence.

You need to get it through your head that African-Americans are no longer dominant in Boxing, period. Two Russians use Black HWs as punching bags in Germany in front of tens of thousands every few months. The Hispanics and a few Asians run the lower weights, the only Black fighter who can draw was chased out of the sport by a Filipino, and we just saw how the 'superfight' played out

If Bradley wants to actually move tickets and get the biggest payday of his career, by far, he'll drop his HBO booking agent and get with a real promoter in Arum.

You need to take your race-baiting bull**** somewhere else playa.

Of course... what else is new? Is anything here not agenda based? I'm not surprised that you would accuse me of one.

I'm stating facts/opinion and supporting evidence for them (Bob Arum and his lack of effort to promote black fighters), then you reveal your biases or just reaching to expose some of what you are perceiving as my bias.

I couldn't give less of a **** about whether blacks dominate boxing, which is why it doesn't reflect in any of my posts.

What do you not understand about the list of fighters (again except for Hagler) you posting being fighters with built in fan bases? Arum should thank all the managers, Don King (Ali, Foreman, Holyfield), Main Events (Holyfield), etc. who built up those fighters before he got involved with them.

I already put in my first post what the best option for Bradley is and with good reason for both, so if Bradley chooses the good short term option that is Top Rank, he'll live to regret it himself.

Thats what I smell.

Lol at the race baiting bull**** that couldn't be further from the truth. Confuse it for whatever y'all want, even if it is ridiculously off, it is what it is.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

TR is a bad promo company for black fighters. Unless he gets the PAC fight he shouldn't sign. GB would be better if he wants the maidana Kahn or Floyd fight.

A Pacquiao fight should be enough to bait Bradley in, but in all reality, Arum doesn't know how/want to promote black fighters.

The Peterson brothers had a good buzz being featured on FNF and/or WNF a few times before linking up with Arum. They were reduced to sitting on the shelf and seeing their buzz die down in 2 years with TR. Instead of A. Peterson exerting his mandatory status against Soto, he was maneuvered toward an eliminator against Rios for a shot at Acosta.

If Bradley wants a good career win or lose, he should choose GBP. We're talking about a fight with Khan in the Summer; if he wins, a fight against JMM in the Fall/Winter; and if wins that, a possible fight in 2012 against Mayweather. If he loses at any time, he still gets to come back on HBO against a Maidana, Guerrero, Katsidis, Canelo, M. Hatton, or even Malignaggi.

Signing with Top Rank will get him an almost immediate shot at Pacquiao, but after Bradley loses, he'll be left out in the cold just like Clottey and the Peterson's were. He might not even get a Rios or Soto.

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WHAT?

Some fighters and fights Bob Arum promoted:









All unknown and under-promoted Black fighters and flop fights.

Seriously... Shut the **** up

Great post prince.

Those two earlier posts i quoted, That's what you call being subconsciously racist. They forget bob arum carefully crafted floyd jr.'s career.

Top Rank MADE OSCAR, FLOYD, & PAC into mainstream stars.

[isar]

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Great post prince.

Those two earlier posts i quoted, That's what you call being subconsciously racist. They forget bob arum carefully crafted floyd jr.'s career.

Top Rank MADE OSCAR, FLOYD, & PAC into mainstream stars.

Oscar made "FLOYD, & PAC into mainstream stars." after they fought him

[War Dinamita]

Bradley should sign with GBP if he wants to have a long career in boxing and have the potential to make millions in the future.

Sure, Arum can give him Pac, but who else can he put Bradley in the ring against?

GBP can put Floyd, Khan, Maidana, Ortiz, JMM, Matthysse, Gomez in the future etc. GBP would also work with other promoters while Arum would only put him in the ring against his own fighters.

[War Dinamita]

LMAO @ Arum making Floyd and DLH into mainstream stars. Are you ****ing serious?

DLH was a mainstream star because of the Olympics.

Floyd became a superstar after he left Arum and fought DLH.

If Arum made DLH and Floyd into superstars, why did they become more popular, sell more, and make more money after they left him?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Bradley should sign with GBP if he wants to have a long career in boxing and have the potential to make millions in the future.

Sure, Arum can give him Pac, but who else can he put Bradley in the ring against?

GBP can put Floyd, Khan, Maidana, Ortiz, JMM, Matthysse, Gomez in the future etc. GBP would also work with other promoters while Arum would only put him in the ring against his own fighters.

LMAO @ Arum making Floyd and DLH into mainstream stars. Are you ****ing serious?

DLH was a mainstream star because of the Olympics.

Floyd became a superstar after he left Arum and fought DLH.

If Arum made DLH and Floyd into superstars, why did the become more popular, sell more, and make more money after they left him?

who crafted & guided the very beginning & majority of floyd & oscar's professional career?

TOP RANK.

Who guided & crafted Pac's career when he hit the mainstream?

TOP RANK.

Gold medal in the olympics is nice, but you have to have success to have real mainstream sporting appeal. You act as if oscar would have been steadily mainstream if he won the gold medal & had a real ****ty pro career.

It was top rank who carefully managed oscar's career & made him into a professional mainstream star.

you ****ing ****sexual ******.

[Khalid X]

Of course... what else is new? Is anything here not agenda based? I'm not surprised that you would accuse me of one.

I'm stating facts/opinion and supporting evidence for them (Bob Arum and his lack of effort to promote black fighters), then you reveal your biases or just reaching to expose some of what you are perceiving as my bias.

I couldn't give less of a **** about whether blacks dominate boxing, which is why it doesn't reflect in any of my posts.

What do you not understand about the list of fighters (again except for Hagler) you posting being fighters with built in fan bases? Arum should thank all the managers, Don King (Ali, Foreman, Holyfield), Main Events (Holyfield), etc. who built up those fighters before he got involved with them.

I already put in my first post what the best option for Bradley is and with good reason for both, so if Bradley chooses the good short term option that is Top Rank, he'll live to regret it himself.


Lol at the race baiting bull**** that couldn't be further from the truth. Confuse it for whatever y'all want, even if it is ridiculously off, it is what it is.

Listen man.....

I never attributed Ali success to Arum...just named him as a example of Arum promoting a black fighter.

I'm just saying Arum has prmoted some of the most popular African American boxers of all time.

To say that he won't or doesn't like to promote them is ridiculous.

This all started with Floyd, if not please prove me wrong and I will backtrack from that stance.

before that...no one was ever claiming that about Arum...atleast to my knowledge.

Again if they have, please show me and I will respectfully backtrack on my comments.