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  • oldgringo
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    #71
    Originally posted by RunWithKnives
    P4P rankings were created for fighters other than heavyweights. You will never see a heavyweight in the P4P lists....because its not possible. The system was created for Sugar Ray Robinson in an attempt to compare his skills to a fighter at a bigger weight.

    Everyone knows a heavyweight will beat even the best of the little guys, but to be fair to them......the system was created.

    Toney isn't a natural heavyweight...and do you really think that if Toney could healthily get down to lower weights, retaining his skills and stamina, that guys like Wright, Pacquiao, Barerra, etc...would beat him? I sure as hell don't.

    He's 4 weight classes north of his starting weight...he's been nothing but dominant against the opposition he's faced too.

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    • Run
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      #72
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      Toney isn't a natural heavyweight...and do you really think that if Toney could healthily get down to lower weights, retaining his skills and stamina, that guys like Wright, Pacquiao, Barerra, etc...would beat him? I sure as hell don't.

      Dont get me wrong. I think Toney would blast those guys out of the water, but you currently would be hard pressed to find others who include him in a P4P list because of his status as a heavyweight.



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      • Easy-E
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        #73
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        Toney isn't a natural heavyweight...and do you really think that if Toney could healthily get down to lower weights, retaining his skills and stamina, that guys like Wright, Pacquiao, Barerra, etc...would beat him? I sure as hell don't.

        He's 4 weight classes north of his starting weight...he's been nothing but dominant against the opposition he's faced too.

        yeah, but thats because hes lazy and has a serious weight problem... the reason he moved up is bc he couldnt stay down, but i see your point, and can understand why u have toney low on ur p4p list

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        • oldgringo
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          #74
          Originally posted by RunWithKnives
          Dont get me wrong. I think Toney would blast those guys out of the water, but you currently would be hard pressed to find others who include him in a P4P list because of his status as a heavyweight.

          This is true...I guess I'm straying from the norm or something.

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          • Truth
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            #75
            Originally posted by Bombardier
            All I can say about this guy is that he lost to Dingaan Thobela, who has lost his last 6 fights in a row.

            Oh, also, his name sort of looks like my username.

            Zab, Zab, Zab
            Its not necessarily Zab's fault, promoters and opponents srew big fights up.

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              #76
              Originally posted by THE TRUTH
              Its not necessarily Zab's fault, promoters and opponents srew big fights up.
              still, there is no excuse for fighting this guy

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              • spinksjinx
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                #77
                Originally posted by THE TRUTH
                Its not necessarily Zab's fault, promoters and opponents srew big fights up.

                Margarito, Spinks,Mitchell,Mayorga,Tszyu..Hell even throw Zab Estrada or Urkal...Those are fighters with a damn pulse atleast...

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                • ZABJUDAH#1P4P
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by spinksjinx
                  Margarito, Spinks,Mitchell,Mayorga,Tszyu..Hell even throw Zab Estrada or Urkal...Those are fighters with a damn pulse atleast...
                  well mayorga, spinks are at 154 so theyre out.

                  we all know how willing tszyu is to fight him?

                  mitchell zab didnt get the money he wanted for that, i guess he ante to be paid this time to fight.

                  estrada or urkal come on who wouldnt be saying the same exact thing? you all would still be complaining.

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                  • Tha_Greatest
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by ZABJUDAH#1P4P
                    well mayorga, spinks are at 154 so theyre out.

                    we all know how willing tszyu is to fight him?

                    mitchell zab didnt get the money he wanted for that, i guess he ante to be paid this time to fight.

                    estrada or urkal come on who wouldnt be saying the same exact thing? you all would still be complaining.
                    Thats not exactly true, Judah fought Spinks when feather fisted Spinks was 10 pounds heavier in one of their fights(sure it was the first one, dont remember) ,Mayorga is willing to fight anyone, at any weight as he proved with the bigger fighter in Trinidad, He can at least make an effort to call Tsyzu some till the fight comes through, Cotto, Hatton, or Mosley can all break off their fights, Mayweather is available, M

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                    • Memorex
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by THE TRUTH
                      Its not necessarily Zab's fault, promoters and opponents srew big fights up.
                      yea it is his fault he doesnt have to fight this crappy match. zab is the champ and fights who he wants but it seems like he doesnt want floyd

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