Was pacquiao vs clottey a fixed fight ???

[peyk-peyk]

the nerve of a ******* to say this...smh

why you mad *****?

don't worry most probably an independent committee will be appointed to investigate this so-called fixed fights.

let's call it the "***** COMMISSION" and you (yesir) will be the chairman.

[jrosales13]

All you guys, besides Blackrish137, are idiots.

[LMFAO]

Like it or not kids. That fight was fixed. With all the **** honest Arum pulls and has pulled with Manny's "legendary" career and choice of opponents at their "peak" besides other "shady" things he's involved with their is no reason to believe it wasn't.

Look at any promo for that fight and you can tell that Clottey knew what he had to do. You can see it in his face.

Manny is cash cow. They're both in house. Manny has a bigger following. Manny was more busted up with less punches thrown by Clottey...FAR less. Clottey has since disappeared out of the country since the fight. More than likely told to "lay low" for awhile by Arum.

Who gets a BONUS for losing??

Why did Arum call Clottey a "good loser" BEFORE the figt even happened?

Why is Clottey saying in his country he "had to lose that day"?

It was just a showcase for MAnny's "skills". A glorified sparring match.

Arum stands to make more money boosting his cash cow to the general public than having Clottey win one fight and "represent" Flop Stank. That fight was made to order for Manny to win. Like it or not.

[Vegan101]

All you guys, besides Blackrish137, are idiots.

Coming from "know it all" moron like you no offense taken.

[johncods]

*****s are saying this fight is fixed because they cant believe pac dominated a very good fighter in clottey. They still in shock.

[ADP02]

Like it or not kids. That fight was fixed. With all the **** honest Arum pulls and has pulled with Manny's "legendary" career and choice of opponents at their "peak" besides other "shady" things he's involved with their is no reason to believe it wasn't.

Look at any promo for that fight and you can tell that Clottey knew what he had to do. You can see it in his face.

Manny is cash cow. They're both in house. Manny has a bigger following. Manny was more busted up with less punches thrown by Clottey...FAR less. Clottey has since disappeared out of the country since the fight. More than likely told to "lay low" for awhile by Arum.

Who gets a BONUS for losing??

Why did Arum call Clottey a "good loser" BEFORE the figt even happened?

Why is Clottey saying in his country he "had to lose that day"?

It was just a showcase for MAnny's "skills". A glorified sparring match.

Arum stands to make more money boosting his cash cow to the general public than having Clottey win one fight and "represent" Flop Stank. That fight was made to order for Manny to win. Like it or not.

So I guess when Floyd was under Arum, they had some of those fights fixed?

"Arum stood to make more money boosting his cash cow, FLOYD!!!"

So I guess we need to question Floyd's "0". Maybe Arum paid off the judges in the Castillo fight? From what you think of Arum, sounds logical, right?


As for Arum's and Clottey's comments: Why not pretend this was a comment made a few years back when Floyd was under Arum. I'm sure you would then think of a logical reason for Arum calling a Floyd opponent (Clottey) a "good loser".

Or if a Floyd opponent would say "had to lose that day"?

OR you can then say It was just a showcase for Floyd's "skills". A glorified sparring match.

[LMFAO]

So I guess when Floyd was under Arum, they had some of those fights fixed?

"Arum stood to make more money boosting his cash cow, FLOYD!!!"

So I guess we need to question Floyd's "0". Maybe Arum paid off the judges in the Castillo fight? From what you think of Arum, sounds logical, right?


As for Arum's and Clottey's comments: Why not pretend this was a comment made a few years back when Floyd was under Arum. I'm sure you would then think of a logical reason for Arum calling a Floyd opponent (Clottey) a "good loser".

Or if a Floyd opponent would say "had to lose that day"?

OR you can then say It was just a showcase for Floyd's "skills". A glorified sparring match.

But none of that happened. It DID happen before and after Pac fought Clottey.

Clottey didn't say Manny was the better man that fight. He said Manny was an ordinary fighter and he had to lose that day. Arum DID call Clottey a good loser BEFORE MAnny's fight with Clottey. That is reality. Like it or not.

[ADP02]

But none of that happened. It DID happen before and after Pac fought Clottey.

Clottey didn't say Manny was the better man that fight. He said Manny was an ordinary fighter and he had to lose that day. Arum DID call Clottey a good loser BEFORE MAnny's fight with Clottey. That is reality. Like it or not.

NOTHING HAPPENED meaning, YOU have no proof yet you are convinced!


Like I said, just pretend it was against Floyd. ONLY THEN WOULD YOU SCRAMBLE TO COME UP WITH A TON OF PERFECTLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONs FOR ARUM, FLOYD AND FLOYD's OPPONENT.

"Clottey a good loser" - Maybe you would have said, "all Arum meant is that Clottey is good but always finds a way to lose. Clottey fought top opponents like Cotto and Margarito well but was the loser. Therefore a "good Loser"

"Clottey said, he had to lose that day." Maybe you would have said, spiritually speaking, God had it planned that I was supposed to lose .... just like when God has planned for a win in other fights...... "I thank the Lord, for this win but in a losing situation, God had a different plan"


It's funny how you avoid Floyd having fixed fights under Arum. Why? Wasn't Floyd Arum's cash cow? Even if Floyd should win (favorite), why take a chance with his cash cow. You know, just like Manny vs Clottey.

[LMFAO]

NOTHING HAPPENED meaning, YOU have no proof yet you are convinced!


Like I said, just pretend it was against Floyd. ONLY THEN WOULD YOU SCRAMBLE TO COME UP WITH A TON OF PERFECTLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONs FOR ARUM, FLOYD AND FLOYD's OPPONENT.

"Clottey a good loser" - Maybe you would have said, "all Arum meant is that Clottey is good but always finds a way to lose. Clottey fought top opponents like Cotto and Margarito well but was the loser. Therefore a "good Loser"

"Clottey said, he had to lose that day." Maybe you would have said, spiritually speaking, God had it planned that I was supposed to lose .... just like when God has planned for a win in other fights...... "I thank the Lord, for this win but in a losing situation, God had a different plan"


It's funny how you avoid Floyd having fixed fights under Arum. Why? Wasn't Floyd Arum's cash cow? Even if Floyd should win (favorite), why take a chance with his cash cow. You know, just like Manny vs Clottey.

Could've happened. But Floyd wouldn't have left Flop Stank to be his own boss and fight other's at the top of their game while he could have stayed with Arum as cash cow and had "fixed" fight after "fixed" fight. Manny's on a streak of beating left over's, fighter's on their way out, looking for a last big payday, and all within house, and admittedly by Arum being marketed towards the general public. Arum has said so himself. "He doesn't care about real fans". He's selling a Wapakman fairytale to those willingly blind enough to believe it.

C'mon now. Right after that fight they have Manny fight Cheato for a vacant title that neither deserved. Now they have Manny fighting an even older Mosely signed to Flop Stank who was made too look bad by Mayweather and Mora. There's a disturbing pattern there. Delahoya himself took the big money payday and ran. Oscar looked like a stick man who could barely stand up.


And you've never seen Floyd busted up. Manny was busted up even though Clottey stood there in defensive mode for practically the whole twelve rounds. And Clottey getting a "losers" bonus? WTF is that?

[SUPREME.]

There is no way Manny beat Clottey that one-sided.

Clottey is much much stronger than Manny. That left hook he landed shook Pacquiao's world and even knocked snot out of his nose.

Pac-Clottey was a fixed fight.