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  • ZABJUDAH#1P4P
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    #21
    Originally posted by riz
    y do u hav to consider barrera better than him
    IMO barrera is nothing man, morales is the best

    barrera doesn't take on the toughest he can find
    morales does
    and he stays active like mad

    takes on chavez, then hernandez, then barrera, then morales, then raheem (which is suppose to be a tuenup), then most likely will face pac again
    barera loses to pac, comes back almost a year later and beats an old ayala, then gets by morales then beats fana (o wow lol), now peden

    i like morales to i like barrera a little better but just barely. to say barrera doesnt take on the tough fights is crazy. i agree peden and fana are not good, specially not compared to morales fighting pac and raheem. but barrera did beat morales. all im saying is barrera is higher ranked then pacman because he beat morales who beat pacquiao. thats all. yes pacman beat the **** out of barrera badly. im not denying that.

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    • TyrantT316
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      #22
      Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
      If Tyson would've beat Lewis....

      He wouldn't have lost to Holyfield either...

      You're basically asking....where would Tyson be if he had some heart...
      actually more like if Tyson landed some good punches that felled Lewis...whether he was dominating the fight or not...even a lucky punch

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      • riz
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        #23
        Originally posted by ZABJUDAH#1P4P
        i like morales to i like barrera a little better but just barely. to say barrera doesnt take on the tough fights is crazy. i agree peden and fana are not good, specially not compared to morales fighting pac and raheem. but barrera did beat morales. all im saying is barrera is higher ranked then pacman because he beat morales who beat pacquiao. thats all. yes pacman beat the **** out of barrera badly. im not denying that.
        ye but i would still put pac hgher then barrera

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        • amaru
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          #24
          Originally posted by riz
          y do u hav to consider barrera better than him
          IMO barrera is nothing man, morales is the best

          barrera doesn't take on the toughest he can find
          morales does
          and he stays active like mad

          takes on chavez, then hernandez, then barrera, then morales, then raheem (which is suppose to be a tuenup), then most likely will face pac again
          barera loses to pac, comes back almost a year later and beats an old ayala, then gets by morales then beats fana (o wow lol), now peden
          barrera nothin??? come on thats just hating, barrera when he retires will go down in the hall of fame and hes already a living legend. i like barrera better than morales and i think he is better than morales but i at least acknowledge talent and morales is just like barrera, a legend and hall of fame fighter.

          when you say barrera dont take on the toughest fights he can find, on recent activity ill give you that, but look at barreras whole career, dont just judge him over a 3-4 fight span. the guys fought quality opponents.

          and no disrespect to hernandez or jesus chavez but who have they beat to be considered great fighters??? just because morales beat them does that make them great??? they were all like pedens before they fought morales.

          you gotta remember too, barreras nearly 32 years of age, theres gonna be a time when you have to slow it down a bit, when youve had 65 fights and quite a few wars you cant blame barrera for not lookin after one big fight after another. morales is younger, he just turned 29, but im sure when morales hits 32 hes gonna be takin it easy a little bit.

          look at both of their careers not recent activity, both are 3 weight champions, both have fought tough opponents and both are great fighters.
          Last edited by amaru; 09-05-2005, 12:43 PM.

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          • THE REAL NINJA
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            #25
            tyson , holy, lewis, bowe

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            • TKODoll
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              #26
              Originally posted by ZABJUDAH#1P4P
              tyson would have to be cause he would have beat lewis who beat holyfield who beat tyson.
              That's idiotic. Holyfield beat Tyson, so Tyson wouldn't be considered the best of the three.

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              • tommyhearns804
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                #27
                If Tyson would of beat Lewis the world would of came to a end so nobody would care who was better between Lewis Holyfield or Tyson.
                Tyson could and never would beat Lewis or Holyfield so they both were better than him.They both were older than Tyson so don't use the old Tyson was past his prime shyt because if Tyson was past his prime then Lewis and Holyfield were too.So if they were younger they would be better just like Tyson.
                But between Lewis and Holyfield it is hard to say who is better.Holyfield best win came against a old Foreman and a old Holmes and then Bowe.Lewis best wins came against a old washed up Holyfield.But if i had to choose i believe a young Holyfield could stop Lewis.

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                • theclawoftheTiger
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                  #28
                  I pick Mike Tyson over anybody on a 'who beats who' basis ..

                  ( 86 - 88 version ofcourse )

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                  • Zab Super Judah
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                    #29
                    I agree that holyfield was past his prime at a pretty early stage in his life. He just always had the stamina but alot of his oldself had eroded away

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                    • Keleneki
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ZABJUDAH#1P4P
                      tyson always congratulates his opponents after his losses. hes down right redicilous when it comes to praising fighters that beat him. he never ever makes excuses for his losses. someone also asked him a while back was he on medication for the lewis fight and he said no, which is not true. he doesnt want to take anything away from any of the people that have wins over him.
                      Yup, that's one category for Tyson that I always thought he was better than just about any boxer ... he sure was humble in defeat, never making any excuses

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