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  • TyrantT316
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    #1

    Had Tyson had knocked out or at least beaten Lewis...

    convincingly, who would be recognized out of the three as the best HW of their time?

    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Tyson

    Obviously, Lewis has the recognition right now because he was more dominant than Holyfield and better competition than Tyson. Plus he beat them both convincingly.
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    #2
    Originally posted by TyrantT316
    convincingly, who would be recognized out of the three as the best HW of their time?

    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Tyson

    Obviously, Lewis has the recognition right now because he was more dominant than Holyfield and better competition than Tyson. Plus he beat them both convincingly.

    tyson would have to be cause he would have beat lewis who beat holyfield who beat tyson.

    just like you have to consider barrera better than pacman even though he lost to him.

    barrera beat morales, who beat pac, who beat barrera.

    anyway tyson was drugged for the lewis fight if he would have been more aggressive he could of koed him. the first round was good for him but then that was it.

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      I rate Holyfield as the best out of the 3. In only his 12th pro fight he defeated in a 15 round war via Split descision one of the greatest light heavyweights of all time in Dwight Quawi/Braxton. Beat him again in a rematch, eventually became Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion. Then went to heavyweight, defeated James Quick Tillis, Pinklom Thomas, Michael Dokes, all be KO in his first 3 fights at heavyweight. Became undisputed Heavyweight Champion in 1990 from defeating buster Douglas by KO 3. Defeated George Foreman by descison, etc. If you look at his record he fought nothing but Championship Caliber opposition from his 12 pro fight onward. He never lost to anybody except the highest quality of opposition before he got old. Lewis lost to McCall who was good figher, and Rahman who is not so goood a fighter in my mind and he struggled with alot of Less than elite level fighters like Frank Bruno, Shannon Briggs, Ray Mercer, and others. He beat Holyfield and Tyson, but that does not mean a whole lot to me because just look at the records of Tyson and Holyfield post Lewis.


      SORRY TO NOT ANSWER YOUR WHAT IF QUESTION.

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        #4
        Originally posted by McKay
        I rate Holyfield as the best out of the 3. In only his 12th pro fight he defeated in a 15 round war via Split descision one of the greatest light heavyweights of all time in Dwight Quawi/Braxton. Beat him again in a rematch, eventually became Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion. Then went to heavyweight, defeated James Quick Tillis, Pinklom Thomas, Michael Dokes, all be KO in his first 3 fights at heavyweight. Became undisputed Heavyweight Champion in 1990 from defeating buster Douglas by KO 3. Defeated George Foreman by descison, etc. If you look at his record he fought nothing but Championship Caliber opposition from his 12 pro fight onward. He never lost to anybody except the highest quality of opposition before he got old. Lewis lost to McCall who was good figher, and Rahman who is not so goood a fighter in my mind and he struggled with alot of Less than elite level fighters like Frank Bruno, Shannon Briggs, Ray Mercer, and others. He beat Holyfield and Tyson, but that does not mean a whole lot to me because just look at the records of Tyson and Holyfield post Lewis.


        SORRY TO NOT ANSWER YOUR WHAT IF QUESTION.

        holyfield was still good when lewis beat him twice. tyson was drugged so that doesnt really matter to much. briggs hit him good but never knocked him down. why do you say mccall is good but rahman is not? that doesnt make any sense, mccall beat lewis with one punch and that ws it. he broke down in the rematch, and rahman has done much more in his career than mccall.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ZABJUDAH#1P4P
          holyfield was still good when lewis beat him twice. tyson was drugged so that doesnt really matter to much. briggs hit him good but never knocked him down. why do you say mccall is good but rahman is not? that doesnt make any sense, mccall beat lewis with one punch and that ws it. he broke down in the rematch, and rahman has done much more in his career than mccall.
          Holyfield was considered past his prime when he fought Bowe the 3rd time. The way he slapped around Michael Moore in the fight preceeding the first Lewis bout creates the illusion he was still good but the truth is he was past his prime by the 3rd Bowe fight. Even took place when he was considered past his prime vs Tyson where he was 7-1 underdog.
          Last edited by The Troll; 09-05-2005, 11:19 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by McKay
            Holyfield was considered past his prime when he fought Bowe the 3rd time.
            but he came back and beat tyson, he cheated his ass off with the headbutts, elbows, and low blows but after that he was considered great, and he dominated michael moorer in their rematch.

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              #7
              Originally posted by ZABJUDAH#1P4P
              but he came back and beat tyson, he cheated his ass off with the headbutts, elbows, and low blows but after that he was considered great, and he dominated michael moorer in their rematch.
              Now your just hating on Holyfield. He didn't fight that dirty against Tyson. Even Tyson said so in the post fight interview.

              interviewer: "it looked like he heabutted you a couple times"

              Tyson "Yeah well I probably headbutted him too, he fought a good fight I am not the one to make excuses."

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                #8
                Your hating on Holyfield for fighting Dirty? For f**k sake Tyson bit his ear off...lol

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  Your hating on Holyfield for fighting Dirty? For f**k sake Tyson bit his ear off...lol
                  had every right to since holyfield did all that illegal **** for 2 fights.

                  tyson always congratulates his opponents after his losses. hes down right redicilous when it comes to praising fighters that beat him. he never ever makes excuses for his losses. someone also asked him a while back was he on medication for the lewis fight and he said no, which is not true. he doesnt want to take anything away from any of the people that have wins over him.

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                    So what if he used a few tricks. Its part of boxing. Holyfield was already past his physical prime and had to use intelligence and ring savy to win fights at that point.

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