Bernard Hopkins at it again: "The Klitschko Brothers Are "Just Lucky"

[Vadrigar.]

You wanna talk about that, start another thread. That has nothing to do with the topic here.

I'm responding to the points you brought up by asking this question.

What are Klitshcko's best wins?

[Steelhammer2011]

Lewis wasn't "over the hill" when he got his ass whooped by Vitali.

Lewis was 37, not really that old for a heavyweight.

Vitali turns 40 in July and Wlad turns 35 in March.

Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis-Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age"

In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years"

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a FACT.

[Vadrigar.]

Brewster, Byrd and maybe Chagaev or Peters....

at that joker acting as if their losses are comparable.

[ChopperRead]

Ali at his worst got beaten by Leon Spinks when he was way way past prime and knocked down against Chuck Wepner.

Wlad at his worst got stopped by a journeyman in Ross Purrity and then stopped inside 2 rounds against a fat part time boxer and golfer Corrie Sanders.

Ali at his best beat Sonny Liston twice, George Foreman and Joe Frazier.

Wlad at his best beat guys like Brewster, Ibragimov and Chagaev.

It ain't even close.

Not close for a flag-waving, Bush-loving, megaAmurican, anyway.

[the niggest]

Lets go over Ali's overhyped resume for a second.

Beat Frazier Twice...a shot frazier, who was also overhyped, even Ali said he chose to figth Frazier the 3rd time because everyone said he was shot. DO you think he took a magical formula that made the sickly one eyes man better? Or do you think int heir third fight that both Ali and Frazier were shot...id say both were pretty shot. Frazier didnt win a fight after that 3rd fight. So you can really give Ali credit for one Frazier win, the third one was a joke unless you want to proclaim Berbick the conqueror of Ali.

Liston- wow he won a rigged fight? Bet youre really impressed with John Cena's wrestling record to arent you.

Patterson-Huh? he was a blown up middleweight, he beat 9 guys in his career over 200 lbs do you know what either Klitschko would do to him. He weighed 188 lbs when he fought Ali the second time....188 lbs.

Norton...uhh he beat Ali all 3 times, why bring up a guy who was robbed. No one can ever say they were robbed against the Klitschko's, they all get beat to a pulp.

Shavers-overrated hype job, never a champion, lost in his prime to guys with losing records.Oh and also was robbed.

Jerry Quarry? Jerry Quarry?

Alis best win was Foreman, who he refused to rematch, and who was counted out even though he was up, who knew he had to go for the knockout (one judge had foreman winnin 0 rounds) so punched himself out, and Ali was allowed to lean against the loosened ropes, the whole thing was a farce.

And Wlad's resume is better? LOL, who the **** has Wlad ever beaten that was as good as Foreman?

[DonairesRevenge]

er this 2quitali" was batteriing lennox lewis even with one eye(from a lucky punch), lewis was gassing and down on all 3 score cards, please go away your a dreadful poster...


Vitali and wlad on form(as tyson fans would say) kill any heavyweight of any era, ali had to cheat as he got floored by a light heavyweight(henry cooper)

If wlad/vitali fought ali ali would think parkinsons was a blessing...

Quitali was fighting a fat over the hill Lewis who was better the night Rahman beat him.

Lewis > The Quitting steroid abuser

[ChopperRead]

Lewis wasn't "over the hill" when he got his ass whooped by Vitali.

Lewis was 37, not really that old for a heavyweight.

Vitali turns 40 in July and Wlad turns 35 in March.

Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis-Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age"

In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years"

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a FACT.

You see what's happened here: the whole point of the thread is lost in the usual Klitschko-hating garbage.

I don't dispute B-Hop's right to dislike any fighter he wants to.

But to say being undefeated for 6 years, or to come back from a 3+ year retirement and not only not lose a fight, but arguably not even lose a round,
is just "luck," is outrageous, especially coming from another fighter who should and who DOES know better.

And to say them dominating is "not fair": why, because they are white?

Was Lewis dominating "not fair?" Never heard B-Hop address that issue.

[Vadrigar.]

Without bringing the silly topic of race into this I have to somewhat agree with Hopkins. The Klitchko's are not hall of fame skilled fighters... Just BIG tough guys with basic stand-up European boxing skill. They also happen to have invaded the division when theres not a strong presence of fighters there. I think a prime Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Ri**** Bowe could have outed them.... Maybe even Ike Ibaibuchi...

I think Haye would catch and KO Wladimir. Vitali has a much more durable chin so no telling what would happen there....


Just my 2 cents

Forget about a strong presence, this is perhaps the worst era in heavyweight boxing.

What does their "domination" even mean?

[Sparked_1985]

Jesus, Bernard.

leave us alone. LOL

[llamas1]

Lewis wasn't "over the hill" when he got his ass whooped by Vitali.

Lewis was 37, not really that old for a heavyweight.

Vitali turns 40 in July and Wlad turns 35 in March.

Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis-Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age"

In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years"

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a FACT.

Lennox was fat undertrained and took him too lightly... Not at his prime... He was certainly loosing that fight on the cards but He busted up Vitali real bad and hey.... Won the fight.... Lennox was at his prime in the early 90's he was most certainly past his prime when he fought Vitali.

Lennox was inducted into the boxing hall of fame in 2009. Anybody think the Klitchkos will get there?