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  • Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
    I really don't care about Pac-Marquez III unless it's at 135 or Marquez proves he can fight at 140.
    imho if Floyd will still not be available later this year, Pac will be facing Marquez next at 147 and haters will still hate on that bro, myself I would like it to be at 140 to even up the odds but maybe the fight will be fought at 144 same as the mayweather-marquez fight ....

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    • Originally posted by MaD vEiN View Post
      too late Freddie

      but i'd rather watch the trilogy than Shane tho
      i disagree...

      the third fight should have happened when manny won against diaz and marquez was on a streak at lw.

      but *****ass ****** de la hoya had to pick on a midget and get his ass kicked.

      and floyd had to pick on an old midget marquez.

      those fights ruined the trilogy for me.

      at this point, anything above 135, marquez gets killed, quite possibly literally.

      and we know pac ain't gonna fight at that weight.

      **** the trilogy. a win over an out of weight, past prime marquez does nothing for him.

      mosley isn't a much better fight but at least the guy's a ww.

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      • Originally posted by JOM'S View Post
        imho if Floyd will still not be available later this year, Pac will be facing Marquez next at 147 and haters will still hate on that bro, myself I would like it to be at 140 to even up the odds but maybe the fight will be fought at 144 same as the mayweather-marquez fight ....
        i don't like a 3rd marquez fight.

        if floyd's still gonna be a bitch, then berto-alexander winner.

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        • Originally posted by Pacdbest View Post
          Roach got his opinion! I got my opinion too! When Roach said before That Mosley was dangerous, I said Pac can beat him easy! When Roach said DLH's too Big, I said Pac will dominate DLH!

          Roach is a good trainer, But I am a better analyst than Roach. I like the Pac-JMM 3 too! But Pac already beat him twice! And JMM hasnt beat any welters yet, for me, JMM's not yet ready! He hasnt earned it yet!

          What I really want is Pac-Floyd! But the MDFKer wont fight a real fighter!! So we settle for Mosley who is an African-American who what *****s trying to say that Pac has ducked! Here it is!! If you dont like it, Go find Floyd and lend him your BALLS!!
          wow you sound like you know boxing very well...unfortunately you need a hand at understanding what an african american fighter means you dumb ****...it means a defensive first slick BOXER...pernell rings a bell...maybe hopkins...oh oh wait...maybe the ***** he ducked in zahir raheem...or maybe it does not define a race, instead it might define a boxer...maybe like another boxer he ducked in joan guzman...just maybe..

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          • Originally posted by Ryannn View Post
            i disagree...

            the third fight should have happened when manny won against diaz and marquez was on a streak at lw.

            but *****ass ****** de la hoya had to pick on a midget and get his ass kicked.

            and floyd had to pick on an old midget marquez.

            those fights ruined the trilogy for me.

            at this point, anything above 135, marquez gets killed, quite possibly literally.

            and we know pac ain't gonna fight at that weight.

            **** the trilogy. a win over an out of weight, past prime marquez does nothing for him.

            mosley isn't a much better fight but at least the guy's a ww.

            i agree completly. jmm at this stage, although a good boxer has lost a step

            and at 140-145 pac probably ruins him for the rest of his life.

            i dont understand how people do not see this. katsidis is about 6 levels under

            pac and touched jmm up waaay too much...


            if pac beats shane then he will have no one else to fight except jmm, unless

            he decides to take on the bradley alexander winner....

            berto aint getting a shot because one he is an unknown, does not deserver it

            and worse is not that good

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            • Originally posted by decipher View Post
              wow you sound like you know boxing very well...unfortunately you need a hand at understanding what an african american fighter means you dumb ****...it means a defensive first slick BOXER...pernell rings a bell...maybe hopkins...oh oh wait...maybe the ***** he ducked in zahir raheem...or maybe it does not define a race, instead it might define a boxer...maybe like another boxer he ducked in joan guzman...just maybe..
              black has nothing to do with being slick or a defensive fighter

              its styles and trainers..

              ali was slick, what other black heavy weight was slick?

              floyd is slick so was pernell... was sugar ray leonard? was hagler? hearns?

              shane is not slick, never was, never needed to be

              there are very few "slick defensive fighters"

              im sure there are some out there but shane aint one, pwill aint one, berto aint

              one, dawson aint one

              bhop is defensive and slick.

              malignaggi is slick he isnt black
              collazo is slick he isnt black
              jmm was slick he isnt black
              sergio mora is kinda slick.....not black
              joe calzaghe was slick, partially hahaha
              Last edited by amayseng; 01-20-2011, 08:34 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                Whether the fight happens at 126, 130, 140, 149 the Pac-JMM III would be a hard fight for Pac, The history between this two makes it worth it, Saying JMM has to prove he can fight at 140 above is ******, He had one fight at 147 against the best fighter of our generation, Even Mosley did worse against Mayweather than JMM did, I pac-JMM fight at 140 is a legit fight that could have happen, Team Pac saying they want the fight at 147 is a way of ducking the fight IMO because they claimed Pac had NO problem making 140.
                wtf are u talking about. U *****s hate pac so much you say pretty much say anything to discredit this living legend. First Marquez overpriced himself when they first negotiated for the trilogy and he asked for osts. Fact. And you say that Marquez was fighting floyd at the heigher well he is fighing another great at the heigher weights how the *** do you know that he will do any better unless he really proves himself. You *****s are scum, your love for a dimwit who dont care about the sport got you trying hard to discredint the best thing to come to the sport since tyson. You guys chat but you will never miss, or fall asleap during a pac fight. You guys aint real fans of the sport, your just fans of an egomaniac that has done nothing for the sport for the last 5 years.

                Instead of posting on subjects about pac why dont you write about floyds upcoming fight. Oh i forgot he hasnt ***ing got one.

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                • Originally posted by decipher View Post
                  wow you sound like you know boxing very well...unfortunately you need a hand at understanding what an african american fighter means you dumb ****...it means a defensive first slick BOXER...pernell rings a bell...maybe hopkins...oh oh wait...maybe the ***** he ducked in zahir raheem...or maybe it does not define a race, instead it might define a boxer...maybe like another boxer he ducked in joan guzman...just maybe..
                  then why dont you say slick fighter instead of african american you dizzy moron.

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                  • Originally posted by -Huey- View Post
                    *******s will disagree with Roach and say JMM don't deserve a trilogy bout because they know more than Roach in 3, 2, 1...
                    freddie knows jmm is a much easier fyt for manny than mosley, that is why.
                    jmm has no chance against manny now, mosley is more dangerous.
                    why read freddie on face value?
                    he is more cunning and crafty than most of you "all-knowing hard core boxing fans".

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                    • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
                      lets be honest here...i like shane, i like floyd the boxer and i like pacman....

                      but lets be honest, jmm got touched up by katsidis waaay toooo much...

                      jmm is getting older and been through some wars,

                      at this point pacman starches out jmm at 140 or 145...

                      pac is an offensive machine with crazy power and speed...he would destroy

                      jmm as of today....

                      shane is a good match for pac in the fact that he has that negating power

                      that will keep pac from over committing for the first half of the fight giving

                      shane opportunities...yes shane is older now, but people are jumping too

                      quick to throw him under the bus...shane has buzz in both hands, dont forget

                      it..

                      of course floyd will be the best fight for pac and i honestly think as of today

                      beats manny...floyd is too big, too sharp and too accurate especially with his

                      quickness.

                      however, floyd is 34 and not getting any younger, if the fight happens next

                      year i give pac the edge...

                      either way floyd is retired, he is done, doesnt want the fight doesnt have

                      the drive for it...

                      people need to move on from it

                      it aint happening
                      agree to all except for the bold blue.
                      floid is just waiting for manny to show some signs of slowing down, of wear and tear from his bigger opponents.
                      floid will fyt manny...$40M is a lotta moolah.

                      pac-money should happen, then a rematch and the trilogy.
                      they can easily earn $100M each if that happens.
                      ...but floid worships his "zero" record....

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