Comments Thread For: Lamon Brewster Reveals How He Beat Wladimir Klitschko

[Steak]

First of all, it makes all the difference at heavyweight. Midgits are nothing like heavies, You cant bully a guy who is much bigger and stronger then you, real life does not work that way, neither is boxing. No matter the mythical boxing 101 that you brought.
Secondly, what Wlad does on the inside is much tricker to deal with then you could think seeing from the screen of your computer. He ties up your hands and leans on you. Try infighting from that position, when you are on your backfoot trying to mangle off 250 pounds of live weight and I will tell you that if you are not at least 50 pounds heavier you are not going anywhere.
You could see the difference with Eddie Chambers vs Dmitrenko and eddie chambers vs wlad, Eddie landed at will against Dmitrenko who tried to square up and clinch and landed virtually nothing against Wlad who clinched when he felt like it.
Third point is that punching on the inside helped virtually no one, and I mean no one against either Klitschko, I would like you to bring up examples.

And as for Brewster, all you bring up is a speculation, Brewster landed nothing of importance up until round 4, if my memory serves me right, somewhere around 36 punches, yet he managed to land twice as much in his worse performance. So, how is that logical? If you call getting your face bashed in effective pressure then really, we have nothing to talk about.

oh boy. this is a mess.

First off:being bigger does not equal being stronger.
Second: the bigger/stronger guy is not always the better on the inside. ex JCC, Duran.

Yes, I have had a 250lb person lean on me. I used to be in wrestling in high school, and would wrestle our Heavyweight. sure, its somewhat tiring, but not impossible at all to deal with. and he would get tired before me. and Im not a professional athlete nor a Heavyweight. I could definitely have gotten off worthwhile punches while he was leaning on me. this is not make believe or being hypothetical, I did this. If I could, Im positive a Heavyweight boxer could as well.

I really dont get how youre so thick. Brewster pressured Wladimir physically and mentally. Wladimir threw WAY more punches because of Brewster coming forward, exhausting himself. Thats the whole point of pressure fighters, to PRESSURE the other fighter and tire them out.

And what infighters have Vitali or Wladimir ever even faced? The only ones that really even tried to pressure Wladimir and go to the body are Brewster, Thompson and Peter...all three gave Wladimir more trouble than any other opponents in a long time. please, lets not pretend that Chambers is any sort of a pressure fighter...

Just because the Klitschko bros have rarely(or never) faced infighters before doesnt mean I should ignore everything else that happened in the history of boxing. Fact is neither brother can do anything when an opponent gets close but grab...if there was such a fighter that could take advantage of that(theres not in todays division), then that infighter could give them problems.

In this case your statement works both ways. I’m not in favor of any conspiracy theories and I’m not saying that Wlad was poisoned by Don King, compromised by his cutman or shot with radiation cannon from a black helicopter. However, it’s been confirmed medically that his insulin level was very high immediately after the fight. Hypoglycemia is an acute medical condition with symptoms of shakiness, anxiety, severe weakness, confusion and dizziness. Oddly, this pretty much sums up Wlad’s condition before the KO. All it takes is a drop of blood sugar level from 80mg/dl to 60-50mg/dl. And no, you can not bottom out someone’s blood sugar by using a good foot work, fighting on the inside or studying the tapes. The win over a highly medically compromised opponent is hardly anything to brag about.

high levels of insulin can be caused by

unusually vigorous or sustained physical activity

. so........I mean its possible....somewhat...that something was wrong with Wladimir, but it really cannot be used as hard fact, since being in a boxing match and getting exhausted and knocked around like he was is pretty vigorous exercising, wouldnt you say?

nor do I personally I believe it.

[Clyde Barrow]

He took a bludgeoning, and Wlad's stamina gave out before Brewster's chin did. Simple as that.

[paulf]

Wlad was a ****ing mess that night. The "he was poisoned" thing is a fairy tale, but wasn't this the fight where his cutman rubbed vasoline on his legs and chest? Could have affected him. No making excuses, Lamont did hit thing and got the W, and Wlad ended up changing his style a lot after that loss.

Either way, he looked like ****. He couldnt even hold his right hand up.

[BrooklynBomber]

oh boy. this is a mess.

First off:being bigger does not equal being stronger.
Second: the bigger/stronger guy is not always the better on the inside. ex JCC, Duran.

Yes, I have had a 250lb person lean on me. I used to be in wrestling in high school, and would wrestle our Heavyweight. sure, its somewhat tiring, but not impossible at all to deal with. and he would get tired before me. and Im not a professional athlete nor a Heavyweight. I could definitely have gotten off worthwhile punches while he was leaning on me. this is not make believe or being hypothetical, I did this. If I could, Im positive a Heavyweight boxer could as well.

I really dont get how youre so thick. Brewster pressured Wladimir physically and mentally. Wladimir threw WAY more punches because of Brewster coming forward, exhausting himself. Thats the whole point of pressure fighters, to PRESSURE the other fighter and tire them out.

And what infighters have Vitali or Wladimir ever even faced? The only ones that really even tried to pressure Wladimir and go to the body are Brewster, Thompson and Peter...all three gave Wladimir more trouble than any other opponents in a long time. please, lets not pretend that Chambers is any sort of a pressure fighter...

Just because the Klitschko bros have rarely(or never) faced infighters before doesnt mean I should ignore everything else that happened in the history of boxing. Fact is neither brother can do anything when an opponent gets close but grab...if there was such a fighter that could take advantage of that(theres not in todays division), then that infighter could give them problems.

high levels of insulin can be caused by . so........I mean its possible....somewhat...that something was wrong with Wladimir, but it really cannot be used as hard fact, since being in a boxing match and getting exhausted and knocked around like he was is pretty vigorous exercising, wouldnt you say?

nor do I personally I believe it.

All of bolded are your speculations. I got simple physics backing my examples, you got urban legends. At this point our argument is not interesting anymore

[boxingking500]

yeah like its so easy to get inside a 6f6 245lb beast, with one of the most powerful jabs in boxing history, while having a mastered defence.....

[boxingking500]

oh boy. this is a mess.

First off:being bigger does not equal being stronger.
Second: the bigger/stronger guy is not always the better on the inside. ex JCC, Duran.

Yes, I have had a 250lb person lean on me. I used to be in wrestling in high school, and would wrestle our Heavyweight. sure, its somewhat tiring, but not impossible at all to deal with. and he would get tired before me. and Im not a professional athlete nor a Heavyweight. I could definitely have gotten off worthwhile punches while he was leaning on me. this is not make believe or being hypothetical, I did this. If I could, Im positive a Heavyweight boxer could as well.

I really dont get how youre so thick. Brewster pressured Wladimir physically and mentally. Wladimir threw WAY more punches because of Brewster coming forward, exhausting himself. Thats the whole point of pressure fighters, to PRESSURE the other fighter and tire them out.

And what infighters have Vitali or Wladimir ever even faced? The only ones that really even tried to pressure Wladimir and go to the body are Brewster, Thompson and Peter...all three gave Wladimir more trouble than any other opponents in a long time. please, lets not pretend that Chambers is any sort of a pressure fighter...

Just because the Klitschko bros have rarely(or never) faced infighters before doesnt mean I should ignore everything else that happened in the history of boxing. Fact is neither brother can do anything when an opponent gets close but grab...if there was such a fighter that could take advantage of that(theres not in todays division), then that infighter could give them problems.

high levels of insulin can be caused by . so........I mean its possible....somewhat...that something was wrong with Wladimir, but it really cannot be used as hard fact, since being in a boxing match and getting exhausted and knocked around like he was is pretty vigorous exercising, wouldnt you say?

nor do I personally I believe it.

last time i checked wlad beat sam peter, twice, beat thompson and beat brewster in the rematch

[Feldscher]

high levels of insulin can be caused by
Quote:
unusually vigorous or sustained physical activity ...
...wouldnt you say?

Actually, I would not.
I’m not going to deny that my knowledge of endocrinology is very basic; but, I also talked to two MDs about hyperinsulinemia. They both agreed that physical activity alone is not enough. There has to be and underlying cause, usually an overdose on medications or pancreatic tumor.

[Steak]

All of bolded are your speculations. I got simple physics backing my examples, you got urban legends. At this point our argument is not interesting anymore

lol, physics? you mean gravity? correct, it exists. good job!

what a hilariously bad argument. its not a speculation if I did it. Its not out of question whatsoever to stand up with 250lbs leaning on you, especially if you lean back onto them and you have the leg and back muscles for it.

last time i checked wlad beat sam peter, twice, beat thompson and beat brewster in the rematch

I never suggested that it was easy to beat Wladimir, despite his lack of infighting. Its still his weakness, since he has had trouble with fighters that force the fight on the inside in the past.

This is the problem with you rabid Klitschko fans, you take facts like that and act like its a mortal insult. I said previously in other posts that despite his lack on infighting ability, Wladimir would still clearly beat anyone else in the division. Not any everyday infighter could beat him, its going to take an exceptional one, who is also very skilled at closing the distance.

And that fighter likely doesnt exist in todays division.

stop being such a baby.

[Tiozzo]

lol, physics? you mean gravity? correct, it exists. good job!

what a hilariously bad argument. its not a speculation if I did it. Its not out of question whatsoever to stand up with 250lbs leaning on you, especially if you lean back onto them and you have the leg and back muscles for it.
I never suggested that it was easy to beat Wladimir, despite his lack of infighting. Its still his weakness, since he has had trouble with fighters that force the fight on the inside in the past.

This is the problem with you rabid Klitschko fans, you take facts like that and act like its a mortal insult. I said previously in other posts that despite his lack on infighting ability, Wladimir would still clearly beat anyone else in the division. Not any everyday infighter could beat him, its going to take an exceptional one, who is also very skilled at closing the distance.

And that fighter likely doesnt exist in todays division.

stop being such a baby.

this is asking too much out of most Klit fans