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  • Steak
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    #51
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    The way to beat Vlad is not the same way Vitali

    How can he generlize when they fight nothing alike.

    Its like having the same solution to beating both Pac and Floyd
    although Vitali and Wladimir do not fight alike, they still share the same weakness of having little to no inside fighting game. that really is the way to beat them, and its pretty obvious too. They have no idea how to fight at close range.


    ...trying to find a top infighter in todays heavyweight division just makes me laugh though. Theres no one that stands a chance against either brother except father time.

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    • Tiozzo
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      #52
      Originally posted by Pirao
      You know Wlad haters are desperate when they need to keep bringing up fights that happened more than 6 years ago


      what an idiot

      didn't you notice the subject of the article is how Brewster beat Wlad ?



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        #53
        Originally posted by blackirish137
        although Vitali and Wladimir do not fight alike, they still share the same weakness of having little to no inside fighting game. that really is the way to beat them, and its pretty obvious too. They have no idea how to fight at close range.


        ...trying to find a top infighter in todays heavyweight division just makes me laugh though. Theres no one that stands a chance against either brother except father time.
        Originally posted by QUELOQUE
        People will disagree, but Purrity showed the weaknesses and Brewster worked it.

        Brewster had to walk through a lot of fire to get to that point to finish Wlad, but that shouldn't somehow discredit his performance or his blueprint. Brewster employed the 3 main strategies to put Wlad in that condition. 1) He constantly put on the pressure. 2) He did not let Wlad hold on. 3) He let his hands go, whenever he was in close.

        Putting pressure on Wlad causes him to be uncomfortable. He wastes a ton of energy when he is uncomfortable. You can see he's uncomfortable because he's tight (the way Jermain Taylor fights, which puts extra stress on muscles, thus tiring him out faster) and from that he becomes awkward and inaccurate.

        Tony Thompson made Wlad look very uncomfortable in the first half of the fight because he put on the pressure and, instead of taking punches, he made him miss. What he didn't do that he had to was not give Wlad breaks. He allowed Wlad to hold on and did not let his hands go enough.

        Do you have to go untouched for a blueprint to be effective?

        No. Few boxers go into a fight thinking they aren't going to get hit. Brewster knew he might have to take tons of shots in the process of fighting Wlad. He's not going to dupe himself into thinking he would turn into Willie Pep for the night.

        Margarito walked through hell to finish off Cotto.

        JMM got knocked down 3 times in the process of displaying a blueprint to beat Pacquiao.

        Castillo lost the first 4 rounds before putting it on Mayweather.

        And so on and so on. Enough with the excuses.
        thanks for the common sense and basic boxing knowledge displayed



        the Klits lovers just don't accept that Wlad hasn't perfected the way he handles the pressure, it's just that there is nobody to put it on him in a constant way during the course of a fight

        Chambers : ''If I fought him again, I would be more aggressive.''

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        • Steak
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          #54
          to be fair, even though thats the way to fight them, at this point it would take a very determined, very good infighting Heavyweight to beat Wladimir. its no easy feat to get past the jab and right hand.

          off the top of my head I cant think of anyone of the past 10 years that could have done it. infighting at HW is essentially dissapearing.

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            #55
            Its a little known fact, but Brewster landed more punches per round(and overall) in the second fight, then in first. Thats how shit he was in the first fight.
            The whole "you gotta beat him on the inside" thing is a myth, inside fighting, especially in HW is probably one of the biggest myths, big guys can not fight on the inside antropologically, there is way too much of them to be hit or held when they are upclose. Mid range and long distance is where it is fought.
            Its easy to be slick when you are 5.8, but when you are 6.3 and up there are just not enough shoulders, elbows and forearms to defend yourself.


            If inside fighting was indeed the answer to be the best heavyweight, our heavyweight would mostly be inside fighters.

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              #56
              Originally posted by BatteredKessler
              thanks for the common sense and basic boxing knowledge displayed



              the Klits lovers just don't accept that Wlad hasn't perfected the way he handles the pressure, it's just that there is nobody to put it on him in a constant way during the course of a fight

              Chambers : ''If I fought him again, I would be more aggressive.''
              Man - you are such a pathetic little hater. Chambers was plenty agrressive in the first fight when he was picking up Wlad and slamming him down on the canvas, until Wlad caught him in the second and showed him that he wasn't playing around, that's when Chambers started running for his life. Don't worry though, Chambers will probably get a 2nd chance to "be more aggresive", I just hope that no idiot haters like you come out and say "he just needed to be aggressive" again.

              Do you and your fellow Klitschko haters realize that is the excuse you all use for EVERY time the Kltischkos beat down their opponent? Even for those opponents that are supposed to be "aggressive" and "pressure fighters", you still say "well they weren't aggressive". Do you know why? What's the common demoninator in all those fights? I'll give you hint, their name starts with a "K" and ends with and "O". The Klitschkos are just that good, they shut down every fighter they face, they fight the best but they are so good, no one can beat them. Sure they have slip-ups, just like any ATG in history, save for Marcianno, but on their good night, no one can beat them.

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                #57
                Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
                Its a little known fact, but Brewster landed more punches per round(and overall) in the second fight, then in first. Thats how shit he was in the first fight.
                The whole "you gotta beat him on the inside" thing is a myth, inside fighting, especially in HW is probably one of the biggest myths, big guys can not fight on the inside antropologically, there is way too much of them to be hit or held when they are upclose. Mid range and long distance is where it is fought.
                Its easy to be slick when you are 5.8, but when you are 6.3 and up there are just not enough shoulders, elbows and forearms to defend yourself.


                If inside fighting was indeed the answer to be the best heavyweight, our heavyweight would mostly be inside fighters.
                I have seen many HWs able to fight on the inside very effectively.

                that whole 'theres too much of you to be hit'...thats the point, isnt it? both brothers are big, and are relatively easy to hit. fact is they dont even attempt to punch on the inside, and if a fighter is willing and skilled enough to rough them up in there then theyre gonna have some problems.

                There is no way you can possibly say that Brewster was better in the 2nd fight than the first one. You cant.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
                  Its a little known fact, but Brewster landed more punches per round(and overall) in the second fight, then in first. Thats how shit he was in the first fight.
                  The whole "you gotta beat him on the inside" thing is a myth, inside fighting, especially in HW is probably one of the biggest myths, big guys can not fight on the inside antropologically, there is way too much of them to be hit or held when they are upclose. Mid range and long distance is where it is fought.
                  Its easy to be slick when you are 5.8, but when you are 6.3 and up there are just not enough shoulders, elbows and forearms to defend yourself.


                  If inside fighting was indeed the answer to be the best heavyweight, our heavyweight would mostly be inside fighters.
                  Exactly, you use the tools that God gave you. Why would Lennox, Vitaly, and Wlad fight like Tyson? Are they 5"10" with short little dinosaur arms? No, they are 6'6"+ with long arms, therefore they fight accordingly and fight off the jab. People are just ****** when they expect Wlad and Vitaly to let shorters guys get inside so that they can show off their uppercut or "inside skills". Why would they do that when they can just get them coming in with the jab and a right cross?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by blackirish137
                    I have seen many HWs able to fight on the inside very effectively.

                    that whole 'theres too much of you to be hit'...thats the point, isnt it? both brothers are big, and are relatively easy to hit. fact is they dont even attempt to punch on the inside, and if a fighter is willing and skilled enough to rough them up in there then theyre gonna have some problems.

                    There is no way you can possibly say that Brewster was better in the 2nd fight than the first one. You cant.
                    Can you name me one HW that is a 6'6"+ HW that fights on the inside? Name me one guy. And I am not talking the occasional uppercut here and there (because then I can claim Wlad has a great upper-cut based on his 2nd fight with Peter and his earlier fights), I am talking about their preferred style.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                      Man - you are such a pathetic little hater. Chambers was plenty agrressive in the first fight when he was picking up Wlad and slamming him down on the canvas, until Wlad caught him in the second and showed him that he wasn't playing around, that's when Chambers started running for his life. Don't worry though, Chambers will probably get a 2nd chance to "be more aggresive", I just hope that no idiot haters like you come out and say "he just needed to be aggressive" again.

                      Do you and your fellow Klitschko haters realize that is the excuse you all use for EVERY time the Kltischkos beat down their opponent? Even for those opponents that are supposed to be "aggressive" and "pressure fighters", you still say "well they weren't aggressive". Do you know why? What's the common demoninator in all those fights? I'll give you hint, their name starts with a "K" and ends with and "O". The Klitschkos are just that good, they shut down every fighter they face, they fight the best but they are so good, no one can beat them. Sure they have slip-ups, just like any ATG in history, save for Marcianno, but on their good night, no one can beat them.

                      Lewis beat Vitali on his best night

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