Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: There is No Doubt Mayweather Beats Pacquiao

[GRUSTLER]

Bruh, I agree with most of what you have to say regarding Team Pacquaio. The only thing we disagree on is that you don't seem to feel Mayweather should share any blame and I do.

Share the blame by accepting 50/50 with Pac and a 10MIL penalty
for every pound he is over the 147LB limit while Pac couldn't agree
to a 14 day cut off of random blood testing? Of course I'm not
going to blame him entirely because he wanted to fight Pac and
Pac didn't!!!!! What is so hard to believe about that? I'm not
making this up! The only thing that I blame Floyd for is not
sticking around and fighting more but the Pac fiasco NO WAY.

[hitking]

Cotto did indeed beat Mosley but he wasn't #1 in the WW division
at the time Pac fought him and on top of that. It was at a catchweight.
Cotto and Mosley fought hard to a decision. Margarito beat Cotto
down and Mosley put his foot in Margarito's ass and wore him like a
slipper. Mosley then had, Cotto's title by KO'n the guy that took
Cotto's undefeated record away. Come on man.... Roach wanted
no parts of Shane Mosley........







PLEASE people! Stop making me feel like I'm making this **** up!

I follow boxing just as closely as you do. So you don't have to hunt for all of these quotes. I remember them vividly. Amd I think I agreed that Team Pacquaio avoided Mosley after the Margarito fight. That said, there was no clear cut #1 at welter at the time. Mosley had beaten Maragrito, who had beaten Cotto, who had beaten Mosley. Neither or all had a legitimate claim to the top spot in the division. So while yes, Pac avoided Mosley. Fighting Cotto made it "acceptable" in my mind.

[Supreme75]

WTF kind of sense does that make?? At least Pac's fights are somewhat exciting! Yeah it gets boring when he starts beating the **** out of people, but still.

In fact, you don't have to pay for it, like I'm not paying for this Mosley ****. But for you to say Floyd NOT fighting is good, is ****ing ******ed. Is that what you are really saying? Or are you saying that there is no one for him to fight? Cuz that would be a bunch of bull**** too.

[hitking]

Share the blame by accepting 50/50 with Pac and a 10MIL penalty
for every pound he is over the 147LB limit while Pac couldn't agree
to a 14 day cut off of random blood testing? Of course I'm not
going to blame him entirely because he wanted to fight Pac and
Pac didn't!!!!! What is so hard to believe about that? I'm not
making this up! The only thing that I blame Floyd for is not
sticking around and fighting more but the Pac fiasco NO WAY.

Playing devil's advocate. If 14 days was cool earlier, why is 7 days not cool now?

[GRUSTLER]

I follow boxing just as closely as you do. So you don't have to hunt for all of these quotes. I remember them vividly. Amd I think I agreed that Team Pacquaio avoided Mosley after the Margarito fight. That said, there was no clear cut #1 at welter at the time. Mosley had beaten Maragrito, who had beaten Cotto, who had beaten Mosley. Neither or all had a legitimate claim to the top spot in the division. So while yes, Pac avoided Mosley. Fighting Cotto made it "acceptable" in my mind.

Your bugging. Mosley was considered #1 at WW. Are you debating this?

[GRUSTLER]

Playing devil's advocate. If 14 days was cool earlier, why is 7 days not cool now?

Manny ain't agree to **** because he is not mentally ready according
to Kahn. What happened to you? I know you don't expect me to
beleive Arum, Roach and Pac's bull****? Because if you do then I'm
the wrong person to communicate with on here.

[hitking]

WTF kind of sense does that make?? At least Pac's fights are somewhat exciting! Yeah it gets boring when he starts beating the **** out of people, but still.

In fact, you don't have to pay for it, like I'm not paying for this Mosley ****. But for you to say Floyd NOT fighting is good, is ****ing ******ed. Is that what you are really saying? Or are you saying that there is no one for him to fight? Cuz that would be a bunch of bull**** too.

You're actually doing all the talking bro, I just put it out there. And hell, I can watch a street fight and it will be "exciting." But to me, the P4P #1 constantly fighting guys coming off loses is just as, if not more annoying than the best fighter in the world (IMO) not fighting at all. I'm on the side that both suck equally. How bout yourself???

[al-Xander]

Agreed. These people defending Floyd kill me. Ok fine, you can say Pac is ducking OST, yada, yada, yada. But who is Floyd going to fight next?

Assuming he is still hiding behind this OST **** with Pac, then who? How about Martinez? How about Paul Williams? How about Cotto? How about Berto?

At least Pac is busy fighting, no matter who it is. This dude ya'll keep defending, ain't even fighting right now!! He is about to fighting to keep them inmates off his ass.

I can't be that kind of fan like these Floyd fans are. For the record
me and my old man are boycotting this Mosley-Pac fight. Who cares
if it doesn't do well in the gates or PPV or any of that ****, which
don't have any financial bearing in my life.

[hitking]

Manny ain't agree to **** because he is not mentally ready according
to Kahn. What happened to you? I know you don't expect me to
beleive Arum, Roach and Pac's bull****? Because if you do then I'm
the wrong person to communicate with on here.

Just like I told that *******, Michael Kontz said on 24/7 Pacquaio-Margarito that they agreed to everything up until 7 days. No one from either camp came out denying that, so I rolled with it. My stance on the issue is that Mayweather said after the first negotiations fell apart, he would no longer accept any cutoffs. So Pac agreeing to 14 days, 7 days, 1 day, or on minute doesn't mean anything to me because Money already said it was accpetable. Didn't you notice my "devil's advocate" reference? I juts put that out there because for someone on the other side of the debate, its a logical question to ask. If 14 days was once cool, what changed?

[Supreme75]

You're actually doing all the talking bro, I just put it out there. And hell, I can watch a street fight and it will be "exciting." But to me, the P4P #1 constantly fighting guys coming off loses is just as, if not more annoying than the best fighter in the world (IMO) not fighting at all. I'm on the side that both suck equally. How bout yourself???

I don't agree that Pac sucks simply because, if he was not fighting right now, there would be no one in WW worth watching IMO.

My problem with Floyd is, he doesn't put himself "in the mix" with the available WW's, or JMW's. Pac just beat the **** out of a guy 25 pounds heavier than he was. Yeah Margs was a walking punching bag, but it was still a risk and Pac did get a bit hurt in that fight. Point is, he took a risk because he loves to fight.

Mayweather could easily come back and say 'I'll fight Paul Williams", "I'll fight Sergio", etc.. or any other fighter who would be a risk, and would make the public sort of forget about him not fighting Pac. But he probably won't. And yeah you say he's the number 1 in the world, so who will he fight next? Another small guy moving up? (Bradley, Alexander, ) Please.