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Originally posted by Buffalo View PostDidn't say better but why do you keep dodging? It's principle not talent skill or anything else fight related. I don't think these fighters should be rewarded for the ridiculous antics. You seem cool with it.
What makes Cintron more deserving?
Keep acting like you know s..t, my man you brought up clottey as a worthy contender.....Before you good day me, tell me why the number 1 contender to the title is less worthy than a swan diver?
Does cintron kick their asses, yes but that doesn't excuse his oscar winning money grab last time out.
You do you though, double standard on different fighters. It's called integrity son.
You ask why does Cintron deserve it over the other guys? Well none of the other guys has a win better than Cintron win over Angulo and if they do please name it? So you have your answer on why Cintron deserves it more.
Why is Cintron the best fighter available? Well all the other top fighters are busy. And, is not because Cintron could beat Ortiz, Bailey, or Aydin. That is just ****** logic. However, Cintron has the size, strength, punching power, to give Berto more issues than all the other 3 mentioned.
But, you keep ignoring that part. But, you do you though. Double standards for different fighters. It's called integrity son.
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Originally posted by pistol whip View PostI was referring to Bradley, Alexander, Khan, Maidana, and Ortiz. Im not defending ****** berto, the guy is a protected ninney! But at the same time Ortiz is a much much better opponent than Bertos last 5 opponents. Vic is a solid fighter who is closer to his prime then any of Bertos recent opponents.
The only good thing about this fight is that hopefully we we'll not hear about the loser ever again in a meaningful fight. Both are hypejobs that get HBO dates due to their connections. But, at the same time Berto holds a win over Collazo, while Ortiz has wins against senior citizens.
LOL @ calling Ortiz better than 90% of the WWs out there when he hasn't a damn thing at WW, really didn't even do anything at 140. Urango did more than Ortiz at 140.
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Ortiz better learn to deal with getting hit or he will lose by TKO via quitting, or might even get knocked out. Otherwise he'd get bullied to a UD. I can't see Ortiz winning considering how he's looked his last bunch of fights. The Ortiz before Maidana would have had a strong chance
U can tell Golden Boy has given up on trying to push Ortiz into the next big star. They've official decided Khan will be their next big star, and that's honestly their best chance. Damn u Maidana. HAH!
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostThat in the bold has nothing to do with it. Because, that means you putting a triangle theory which never works.
You ask why does Cintron deserve it over the other guys? Well none of the other guys has a win better than Cintron win over Angulo and if they do please name it? So you have your answer on why Cintron deserves it more.
Why is Cintron the best fighter available? Well all the other top fighters are busy. And, is not because Cintron could beat Ortiz, Bailey, or Aydin. That is just ****** logic. However, Cintron has the size, strength, punching power, to give Berto more issues than all the other 3 mentioned.
But, you keep ignoring that part. But, you do you though. Double standards for different fighters. It's called integrity son.
I said what you said, but I did it in one sentence. By saying cintron kicks their a.....s I was saying he is better. We agree on that.
This time you finally answered, I'll give you the angulo win is nice, yet sports are a what have you done for me lately type of biz. Boxing should be no different. His latest strange act should exclude him from an hbo fight next time out. That's my whole point.
Disagree with me if you want but don't act like I don't get this boxing game. Like I said before judging by your sig you probably think mosley deserve's the fight because he beat oscar and margarito earned his fight by way of his win over martinez.............clottey that's all I need to know ....
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diabella wants this fight (berto/ortiz) to happen rather quickly because he knows the the hiphop and latin community will come to support it, but from a fans standpoint and maybe a historical fight btween alexander vs bradley it is the more appealing matchup so the hardcore fans will be in attendence via cable and i believe theres millions of us so it will do big numbers.
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This is why GBP will never topple Top Rank. GBP has no clue how to build a fighter. Victor Ortiz is one of their top investments. So after his last fight that ended in a draw, GBP is making him move up to fight the champ of a division he has no experience in. Bravo Golden Boy
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