Will there ever be a Black Heavyweight Champion? now that Russia owns HW Divison

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I find hilarious how most yanks are so insecure when a sport they used to be on top suddenly gets taken over by other nations, the same excuses keep rolling in tennis forums as well "Sampras would destroy those clowns Federer and Nadal, weak era, NFL and NBA, etc, etc", it's not like Europe has other sports, or that we are the best at the most popular sport in the world, right?

The fact of the matter is we as well as you all know, America can and has produced better heavyweights in the past compared to what's out there right now. If Eddie Chambers is or best, there's no way he compares to our top HW's from the 60's to the 90's. There's a reason why we are not on top and it all has to do with what we have out there right now. No other country has ever produced HW fighters as great as Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Joe Frazier, Joe Louis, or Muhammad Ali. You guys ain't ***** until you produce a fighter that can compare to those. Even the greatest fighter P4P in history was produced in America. Those are facts that can't be disputed. Even top boxing experts in England rate Robinson over everyone. Mark my words, there will never be an Eastern European or Russian ever ranked in the top 3 P4P list. That is a fact that will be very hard for you to live with, but it is what it is.

[武士道]

Andrei Chikatilo; who gets to claim him, Russia or Ukraine?

[Ogecca MaMa]

Crushin don't get upset so, I consider myself as Ukr. but i mean, everyone know Russia more than Ukraine. because due of Russians ? no. there are plenty of Ukrs scientists that work there, politics etc. the point is.. should we start now tell everyone - you guys crazy, here is Wiki, about Ukraine, who we are etc. just get along with it

[Russian Crushin]

so the whole "RUsj" started aprox 1600-1500 years ago in Kiev. so Russians should be called/know as Ukrainians then? Russia is huge and we all were in USSR. I'm not saying Kirgistan or Kazahstan should be called Russians just because they were in USSR. no. Ukr Russ and Belorussia are oretty much same blood. and because someone dont know Ukraine, it doesnt mean, they cant call us Russians. anyways..

Yes Ukraine has various ancestries such as Russian, Belarussian, Polish, Greek and even ***ish but we are a different people and it is wrong to call us Russian

People call Ukraine "Russia" under pure ignorence, not because they know the history behind it. This stems straight from the Cold War because anybody out of the USSR was called Russian at the time

[Filipino Floyd]

Andrei Chikatilo; who gets to claim him, Russia or Ukraine?

LOL!! The Rostov Ripper should go to Russia. He was tearing **** up and eating little boys wee wee's before the country split.

[miron_lang]

Yes Ukraine has various ancestries such as Russian, Belarussian, Polish, Greek and even ***ish but we are a different people and it is wrong to call us Russian

People call Ukraine "Russia" under pure ignorence, not because they know the history behind it. This stems straight from the Cold War because anybody out of the USSR was called Russian at the time

Exactly the point.

If not, Ukrane's Golds in the olympics should be credited to Russia.

[Russian Crushin]

Crushin don't get upset so, I consider myself as Ukr. but i mean, everyone know Russia more than Ukraine. because due of Russians ? no. there are plenty of Ukrs scientists that work there, politics etc. the point is.. should we start now tell everyone - you guys crazy, here is Wiki, about Ukraine, who we are etc. just get along with it

No im not getting upset lol

I dont find it as an insult but if anybody calls me Russian in life, i will correct them

Russia and Ukraine are 2 different cultures and yes there is and always was mixing of different cultures in Europe and Asia forever, but to call them the same is just ignorence

[Ogecca MaMa]

No im not getting upset lol

I dont find it as an insult but if anybody calls me Russian in life, i will correct them

Russia and Ukraine are 2 different cultures and yes there is and always was mixing of different cultures in Europe and Asia forever, but to call them the same is just ignorence

when im in US ppl ask me if im Russian, then im saying im Ukrainian. but over in internet is wrong to telling everyonme who we are etc. if they knows us as Rus fine. on other hand.. kazahs, etc.. they aint russians.

in overall i dont get upset, call me russian. i do have ukr last name though. may be im talking about Odessa.. because here we all "Russians".. . Одесситы ёбанный в рот.. не называть же себя украинцами))

[Russian Crushin]

when im in US ppl ask me if im Russian, then im saying im Ukrainian. but over in internet is wrong to telling everyonme who we are etc. if they knows us as Rus fine. on other hand.. kazahs, etc.. they aint russians.

in overall i dont get upset, call me russian. i do have ukr last name though. may be im talking about Odessa.. because here we all "Russians".. . Одесситы ёбанный в рот.. не называть же себя украинцами))

I cant read Russian that well but it looks like you wrote that Odessans do not call themselves Ukrainian. I think Odessa was actually part of Imperial Russia

Ethnic Russians and Ethnic Ukrainians have a different culture, Just because a Ukrainian persons great great great great grandfather was 1/2 Russian, it doesnt make him Russian

[Pirao]

The Asians are going to dominate this division for awhile (Russians & Ukrainians = Asians).

Holy shit