Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Adviser Fires Back at Mosley Fight Critics

[Agent Mulder]

Asked AFTER THE MORA FIGHT if he'd read the less-than-glowing reports of the controversial draw, Arum gave little reason to expect a Mosley-Pacquiao showdown.


"I did and I read them saying Mosley was huffing and puffing for air in the fourth or fifth round," Arum said. "To me, that is the real tipoff for an aging fighter. Even Big George Foreman did that in his 40s but he always had that big, big punch like in the (Michael) Moorer fight.

"What I've read is not very supportive to make any Mosley-Pacquiao bout. Look, he's going to be 40 and he's in the lighter weights where speed is so important. He's on a show with guys -- example, 20-year-old Saul Canelo Alvarez -- old enough to be his son.

"I guess Shane needs the money due to his matrimonial sitaution (a divorce under harsh California community property rules),"Arum said. "I've always considered Shane to be a nice guy but this is what happens to fighters when they age.

"It's like (Bernard) Hopkins, he still knows how to fight but who wants to pay to see him now? His fights are not very scintillating. What you see with Hopkins we're beginning to see with Mosley."

Arum said he wouldn't be interested in playing the flakcatcher if he made a Shane-Manny bout at this point.


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[King Ghidorah]

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Yup and this is why MMA is taking over the States....

[CaliAgent]

Same old crap. A midget? Anybody who has been a real fight fan for any period of time knows when fighters come up in weight they have to fight the bigger guy. Usually taking a lesser opponent to work they're way into the division. But the bottom line is. If you say or think your better. You go up to the opponents weight and whoop him. Excuse after excuse for PAC's catchweight crap. Nobody else does this! Look at what the best fighter of the year did:Martinez. He went up to Kelly Pavliks weight whooped him and snatched the belt. No crying that he was smaller or crying that he is a midget! Roy Jones did it to ruiz. Went up to the bigger mans weight and whooped him. Didn't cry for him to starve himself to lake a lower weight so that he could have an advantge! This is a disgrace to the sport and for PAC to feel proud of it is a disgrace!

As far as who's better than Mosley. The better question is who is not better than mosley!! If I myself were PAC I highly doubt I would look around and say "who should I fight to prove I'm the best welterweight?" and then choose Shane as an opponent!! Are u asking if berto is better? Answer= YES! Paul Williams YES jMM YES Bradley YES Khan YES Alexander YES
where's Margarito If he's great?
Where's cotto if he's great?
Where's hatton if he's great?
Where's Delahoya if he's great?
Where's clottey if he's great?
Where's David Diaz if he's great?
Caught every last guy except for clottey and sorry a** David Diaz at a catchweight and at the end of they're careers after loses!
Should we demand more? Ummmmmmm no Shane is great! This should prove he's the best? Haaaaaaaaaa. Get real! And arguably on roids! The best? Nah!

[STRUGG]

****** garbage fight...........................

[iloveboxing2]

"leadupper****" go back to work..and finish the toilets!!!

..nobody wants to read your hate remarks here.

[Matisyahu]

Same old crap. A midget? Anybody who has been a real fight fan for any period of time knows when fighters come up in weight they have to fight the bigger guy. Usually taking a lesser opponent to work they're way into the division. But the bottom line is. If you say or think your better. You go up to the opponents weight and whoop him. Excuse after excuse for PAC's catchweight crap. Nobody else does this! Look at what the best fighter of the year did:Martinez. He went up to Kelly Pavliks weight whooped him and snatched the belt. No crying that he was smaller or crying that he is a midget! Roy Jones did it to ruiz. Went up to the bigger mans weight and whooped him. Didn't cry for him to starve himself to lake a lower weight so that he could have an advantge! This is a disgrace to the sport and for PAC to feel proud of it is a disgrace!

As far as who's better than Mosley. The better question is who is not better than mosley!! If I myself were PAC I highly doubt I would look around and say "who should I fight to prove I'm the best welterweight?" and then choose Shane as an opponent!! Are u asking if berto is better? Answer= YES! Paul Williams YES jMM YES Bradley YES Khan YES Alexander YES
where's Margarito If he's great?
Where's cotto if he's great?
Where's hatton if he's great?
Where's Delahoya if he's great?
Where's clottey if he's great?
Where's David Diaz if he's great?
Caught every last guy except for clottey and sorry a** David Diaz at a catchweight and at the end of they're careers after loses!
Should we demand more? Ummmmmmm no Shane is great! This should prove he's the best? Haaaaaaaaaa. Get real! And arguably on roids! The best? Nah!

You don't know boxing history. There have been many big catchweight fights with the title on the line.

Berto please he is currently a product of HBO and Paul Williams is still clearing his cobwebs. Marquez showed he cannot compete at welterweight and Bradley and Alexander are occupied at the moment.

[GRUSTLER]

MAJOR Flip Floppers....

The chickens are coming home to roost......

In a strange turn of events, famed Manny Pacquiao strength and conditioning coach
Alex Ariza says he would like to see Pacquiao fight Juan Manuel Marquez and not Shane Mosley.

He said Mosley is a quitter when he was talking with the Philippine Star (link is from BoxingScene.com):

"Mosley? He’ll be tired after 15 minutes, so what’s the point of that fight? Manny knocks him out and probably, Manny won’t even train for that fight. That guy is a quitter. He quit against Mayweather in three rounds...[I like Marquez] because he’s got balls. He’s got heart. And he’s ****** enough to think he can beat Manny. So that’s a great fight."

Koncz said media criticism of Pacquiao picking on the 39 year old Mosley is like water off a duck's back. He doesn't agree that Pacman is taking on a worn out. all but finished fighter.

"We feel it is a diffuclt fight against a difficult opponent. Mosley will be dangerous especially from the first through the fifth round. I mean, he hurt and wobbled Floyd Mayweather in the second round just last May and he is a proud, three time world champion." the Canadian native said.

"Maybe, after the fifth round, the tide shifts to Manny but this is still a guy who hurt the undfeated Mayweather and what we hope is that Manny can do something that Floyd could not which is to stop Mosley."

[check hook]

Personally i would have preferred Berto just to see how a young fighter would do, or JMM at 140 just to see how that would unfold.

Even though i'm not a fan of Manny's steak cutter/rice fluffer this isn't a terrible matchup. Mosley has never looked good north of 147 and Mora weighed in at 157, so was practically 170+ on fight night. Also Mora moved alot and was very defensive...and Floyd just outclassed Shane even though he stood in front of him.

Shane is good against fighters that come to him. His issues are stamina (age) and the fact that Manny is faster of hand and foot. If this was SSM trhat fought ODLH vs Pac at 147, Shane would spark MP out.

[Matisyahu]

Personally i would have preferred Berto just to see how a young fighter would do, or JMM at 140 just to see how that would unfold.

Even though i'm not a fan of Manny's steak cutter/rice fluffer this isn't a terrible matchup. Mosley has never looked good north of 147 and Mora weighed in at 157, so was practically 170+ on fight night. Also Mora moved alot and was very defensive...and Floyd just outclassed Shane even though he stood in front of him.

Shane is good against fighters that come to him. His issues are stamina (age) and the fact that Manny is faster of hand and foot. If this was SSM trhat fought ODLH vs Pac at 147, Shane would spark MP out.

This is a fair response and not just blind hatred like some.

[leegeelee]

Watch what happens , ( manny can destroy mosley at will)
that being said, i see this happening, intentional drawing lil floyd out of hiding, i see manny not trying as hard. I see manny letting this fight go the close distance. But manny in control has a less than spectacular performance, but wins a decision.
Mayweather see that pac doesnt look quite the same and comes running for the pac fight. We get may/pac at the end of 2011

You're seeing ghosts, perhaps because you trying not to see whats really happening, which is Manny taking the lowest risk fight he can find. Berto and Marquez, both comming off ko victories don't fit that description. When you start looking past the obvious, you might see anything